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Alpha Two Phase III testing has begun! During this phase, our realms will be open every day, and we'll only have downtime for updates and maintenance. We'll keep everyone up-to-date about downtimes in Discord.
If you have Alpha Two, you can download the game launcher here, and we encourage you to join us on our Official Discord Server for the most up to date testing news.
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Thank you for proving my point about how easily offended North Americans can be.
Your actual post makes no sense, I hope you understand that. It is the incoherent ramblings of an offended North American white female gamer.
Oh yeah the irony in that statement innit
lol
well at least you found the humour in it that I was going for
I aint american so cant relate, i assume you talking about yourself then. 🤣
And ofc not.... 😂 it would only make sense to you and your kind if i do agreed with you, right!?
Such a witty comback.
My point remains, game developers were called on by a small group of people to be moral arbitors, the result is what the result is. You haven't said anything to suggest you agree or disagree with this, so I don't know if you agree or not as yet.
To demonstrate how "nothing" your first post was, I'll go over that list that you made.
Your first point about not all games being made for a North American audience - most are, and the ones we are talking about all are. Other regions will play them, but they are designed primarily for a North American audience. As such, your point here makes no sense.
Your second point to refute my point about actions 5 - 10 years ago, where your only reply was to state that I am obviously (in your opinion) not female. Umm, ok. What exactly does it means if I am, but also what does it mean if I am not ? In both cases, nothing - your point here makes no sense.
Third was about Korea and the general notion there being each individuals notion of perfection is the goal of that individual. Your comment that maybe not everyone is "looking forward" for perfection makes no sense. This is because it was an obvious generalization about the population of South Korea in relation to the population of North America, and how the design aesthetics of games primarily aimed at each region differ based on the generalizations of each population.
Fourth, I state that North Americans are easily offended, and your witty comback was that I described myself there. I am in no way offended by any of this, and in fact I find the entire situation amusing - much as I am amused by having to reply to your post on the previous page.
The last point you made in your list where I said to not blame developers, your response was that it was my fault, which again, obviously makes no sense.
Your last point about if there is someone that should decide "what a female should look like" is the most absurd, because no one is talking about (or cares about) that. We are talking about what females in games look like, and the person/people that should decide what they look like are obviously the character artists (and artistic lead) working on the game in question - regardless of their gender.
Im sorry WHAT? 🤣 you are indeed a comedian arent you? (im quite certain most are all aiming to a global (international) market)
I mean by all means be my guest at just keep on giving me reason/confirmation 😂by all means
???? ^ ...so you started to compare both and now you trying to contradict yourself!?
Sure... me too 😂 btw
"...obviously makes no sense." Obviously ahaha 😆
What do you mean nobody cares about?? You guys clearly do.... what does that even mean? im sorry you all in here on a constant ramble nonstop crying HOW mainly females look or should look like (oh yes in game) and now you daring to say it is not the case? whaaaaa???? Im sorry but YOU try make sense
Sure, they will sell it to who ever wants to buy it, but in terms of game design or art direction, if there is a decision to be made to fit in to the sensibilities of NA, EA, SA, SEA, RU, JP, KR or Oceania, game developers outside of KR and RU will almost always so with appeasing the NA sensibilities. Sweetie, don't look to me for confirmation. I'm unsure how you think I have contradicted myself here.
As I said, we are not talking about how a female should look, we are talking about how a female should look in computer games. These are vastly different statements with vastly different scope, and so the distinction NEEDS to be made.
If your statement that "if there is someone who should be deciding 'what a female should look like', it is indeed a female!" was not intendedfocused general statement, but rather one focused specifically at "in computer games" and you just forgot to include any mention of said computer games, then all I can say is "that is ridiculous".
OOF so conclusion absolute delusion and entitlement...also dont call me sweetie we not that close at all...
Hmm...interesting inst it, looks like who is doing the generalizations it is indeed you, since you even trying to talk for the koreans themselves (and the on going comparison to North America 😆)...
"As I said, we are not talking about how a female should look, we are talking about how a female should look in computer games." - No shit Sherlock (pardon my french) and here i thought this was the entire point of the topic (well yours cuz it is actually not the main topic)...
Also let me borrow this one: Care to explain?
This one is too funny 😆which one? the one which they look exactly as they do now? is that what you missing!? i cant...
then you must be blind lol
see quite well tho...is it cuz the lack of make up and different hairstyle where the issue resides??
You call that hot? Better, you really think that the rest find this hot?
Cant even believe you did actually attempt to make your point valid by posting that
nice one 😂i could never find better in the year of 2025...
from what i have seen on the Alpha Two Test Servers from Phase 1 onward last Year -> Men and Women look pretty similar in Stature, Build, "Looks", etc.
A bit more Difference is desired.
Boys get the broader Shoulders and Muscles - Girls should get a few more Curves.
Now everyone thinking themselves smart might want to argue and say :
" NO !!! Ashes is not an Asia-MMO for Gooners and so on !!! " - and these People are way off the mark.
I sometimes hate to have to Mention Worst of Warcraft out of all MMO's,
but aside from it's Cartoony Style of how the World and the Charaters look,
You can CLEARLY distinguish between Men and Women in the Game. For some Races the Difference are even more obvious than for others - but WoW is not a "Gooner(lol) MMO".
Anyone remember the Ashes of Creation Clips from around 2018 or so, with the "Sorceress"(?) who ran around in that Orange/Red Outfit, which was admittedly a bit trimmed towards direction sexy ? lol
Back then, i think the Differences were clearly visible. Even if the Outfits played a role as well. It doesn't even have to be so over-the-top clearly and easily noticeable - but noticeable enough. Nothing would harm the Popularity for Characters more if Men and Women would look almost the same.
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✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
Well for a matter of fact it is not, so... It is not being made by an asian company (aka korean or japanese) [Not way off the mark just purely/merely stating facts]
Come again!? 😝
Also for the western vs eastern comparison andys
[Ubisoft - EU company]
[Larian Studios - EU company]
[inZOI/Krafton - SK company]
[Capcom - JP company]
Is it Mods/modded if one can set the Muscle-greatness/smallness for the Characters, too ?
I like that i can decide already in Ashes how broad my Characters Shoulders are and how thicc or thin my Characters Arms are.
When we are done creating our Characters however -> they wear Clothes. Armor. Then the Moment will come if they look different at all, or if Men and Women look almost identical.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
Indeed and yes i do have mods but no the muscular body type is not one, some of the face presets tho however and the eyes and hairstyles they are, although bg3 has a lot of options it is never enough 😄
And something i have to point out is the lack of face presets and hairstyles diversity, an issue in most games.
Blessed be that Larian allowed Mods for the Game. \\(^3^)//
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
The topic of this thread is: The character models look terrible. Fix them.
I'm definitely not going to play this (and spend money for cosmetics) if that means I'll have to pilot a meth addict through Verra.
Is that muscular girl from the Character Creator of "Dragon Age : The Veilguard" ?
Because as cool as she looks, all buff and so on - that Game is kinda ... ... ...
However!! I like how the Option is already in the Alpha 2 Character Creator of Ashes of Creation to adjust your Characters' Shoulder- and Arm-broadness and so on. You can decide if your Character looks weak, or if your Character has heavily worked out all their Life.
What was the American-dissing Please, if i might ask ? lol
Are the Character Creators in American Games in the last Years bad or so ? Not that i would know.
Hashtag /NotALLCharacterModels - but Yes. There were still heavy Improvements possible since earlier this Year. The whole Character Creator needed to level up it's Game.
Since i haven't heard from a great Improvement since then - i just assume it is still the same and that there is still lots of Room for Improvement.
What exactly do you mean, with "piloting a Meth Addict" ? Do the Characters look stoned to You ?
What i personally can not wrap my head around for this Life of mine -> is how Years-old Concept Arts, or Character Creator Videos from the likes of 2018 or so -> can look SOOOOO MUCH better than what the Character Creator was, since the Start of Phase 1 in late October to early November last Year.
Honestly.
I don't get it.
What is preventing Intrepid from going with the better Model ? I just have to assume that this is because the Coding from the earliest Alpha 2 Stages somehow just doesn't allow it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
thats a whole ass man lmao , what the hell are these characters they kept getting worse the more i scrolled down lmfao 😝
You mean the masculinization, androgenization - and actual Virilism of Women/female Characters in Video Games and not just in Reallife like some Women for example dress, style - and present themselves before a Mic and a Camera ?
Jeah,
i am actually shocked that "Veilguard" did make a few Sellings. Guess it is true and some People "WILL" without fail refuse to use their Brains and see this coming when a Brand and Franchise is intentionally ruined to try and destroy People's Fun.
I wonder how good - "or bad" - Witcher 4 will be.
And if it will be bad ... ... ... like ... ... ... you know ? Veilguard ... ... ... ... or EVEN WORSE - than Veilguard ... ...
Then i wonder just how many People will still waste their Money and throw it to the Developers with things like Pre-Orders or simply buying the Game.
It is almost like some People "enjoy" being completely scammed, f~cked over - and being disappointed and insulted.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
well ashes is heading ..actually its already in there they are just heading deeper into that direction lol.
sadly the witcher will still sell cuz its "the witcher"
Nope thats from Dragon's Dogma 2 (capcom), which most certainly one of the best character creator right now out there demo
Clearly some of you in here have the Inferiority complex (cough @GreatPhilisopher) i dont think playing as a
cute teenager school girl to compensate something... will fix it but hey oh you do you
cough someone's talking out of their behind (we all know who not worth putting their name) cough cough while trying to make their "female characters" look as a man as much as they can where they obviously end up as an abomination , seems someone got a weird fetish , typical of a certain type of people that is being made fun of nowadays COUGH.
dragon dogma had a good CC but faces too wide too big, chins too defined just like ashes in a way, all trying to be too MUSCULAR for females unless you spent a long time trying to fix it which i did and it was still very hard to do hence they changed it and mostly fixed that issue for the next more popular game they were going to release MHW in which i happily made a dozen beautiful and great looking characters in ^^
You have no idea how wrong you are in your assumption 😆but anyways... (i might have stroke a nerve in there, who would have thought 🤣)
More like an Allergy against masculinized Women and effeminate Men shoved down our Throats.
Hell i don't even have anything against if we can have " BOTH " of all these things. And i just know 100% that i win 100% with this.
Imagine we can have both masculine and effeminate Men in Ashes of Creation.
Imagine we can have both feminine and masculinized Women in Ashes of Creation.
BOTH of all of it - at the SAME time.
The one most important Factor when introducing muscular Women or noticeably effeminate Men is -> that People can have the FREEDOM to choose and decide if they want their Character to be this way, or not.
And then Nobody can or should ever complain if most Men who want to play for example a female Character, will choose to let this Character look very feminine,
and that most Women who want to play a male Character - want their male Character very masculine.
Because that is just how the World and the true Majority of People is.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
I am in the guildless Guild so to say, lol. But i won't give up. I will find my fitting Guild "one Day".
you really think highly of yourself when all of your posts only managed to get a chuckle out of me, i never nor will i ever take your kind of people seriously, i and well the world in general have actual problems to care about not the clownery y'all make and come up with cuz you have nothing else to do in your life so you try to make problems out of nothing lmfao
Guess what nobody forcing any of you to buy or even play those games with characters you so much dislike to begin with... so get a grip and get over it
and the sheer irony aka hypocrisy
[Plus i dont think, ive gotten absolute certainty that i hit you right on the feels, i mean you keep on proving it over and over again to me 👌] (looks like ive once more repeat myself cuz people around here seem to struggle to read simple sentences for some reason, so again you are quite mistaken in your assumption)
All of the characters in the game look like meth heads.
Now when I see a meth head in real life I think: "Minimum Viable Product".
This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
oh the outrage, the audacity of creating something remotely looking very much like an actual human being (or even humanoid...), truly an abomination u.u btw your misogyny couldn't scream louder 😆; obviously you a "bit" disturbed in that head im afraid you probably not even certain what you are anymore
K, Keep the delusion up i guess lol