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Has the decision to go with these companies derailed your hype-train?
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  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    it brings some serious trust issues, even though I'm not in EU.

    I still think people are making too much of a fuzz about it and think Steven didn't give any thought to this decision, but man I really want to know what did he take into account to take that decision.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Santy182 said:
    it brings some serious trust issues, even though I'm not in EU.

    I still think people are making too much of a fuzz about it and think Steven didn't give any thought to this decision, but man I really want to know what did he take into account to take that decision.
    Same boat here.

    I'm in "wait and see" mode until we get a comment from Steven. I thought this Poll might be a good gauge for them to measure community reaction.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Im expecting my.com in NA and its very dissapointing.  
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Considering the current state of the MMO genre (P2W is rampant) and public perception of crowd-funded games (we've all been burnt, too many times), I think it's an important issue to address and explain to your audience.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited August 2018
    Very disappointed. Even if my.com/Mail.ru have absolutely no influence and are strictly running servers...I still hate the fact that we are helping to keep these greedy companies in business when they represent everything  that is wrong with MMOs today. 
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    I went no because I just don't know enough yet. This game is a big hope for me so I'm not going to lose faith based on an inherent affiliation with a company that @GMSteven hasn't explained yet.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Kratz said:
    I went no because I just don't know enough yet. This game is a big hope for me so I'm not going to lose faith based on an inherent affiliation with a company that @GMSteven hasn't explained yet.
    i agree, but my hype train is doing a fucking sideway wheelie atm. i really hope this doesnt turn for the worstD:

    i dont wanna search for a new mmoT.T not when i found this 1D:
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    I think it was a very poor decision and it clearly shows with the the way the community has reacted to this news.  As a NA player this shoots off red warning flags honestly because he made money off multi-level marketing so he has to understand what first impressions are and this is a god awful impression that he is putting on to the community and others who have dealt with My.com.  All you have to do is go to Youtube and see the bs My.com has pulled on people and you'll start to get a good idea that this was a terrible choice for Intrepid Studios.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited August 2018
    Well, it was too good to be true. Now we know why we can't have nice things. At least that is true for the folks here in the EU. Good luck to the NA players. I'm out of the train. Yikes
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Well, that was the end of my hope for the game. Can not express how poor a decision that was. 
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Really no idea. What is important to us? Stable servers and a good and fast work and 10000% > no influence on the game content <. Which company could do that? If I see which games "my.com" have rightnow, I think next, they are maybe not the best choice???  😮


  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    will not be spending any more money on this game after this news, very dissapointed
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    And so, the foreboding drums of corporate greed thunder once again.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    So hype for me is gone. This is sad :( All hope is gone ... maybe not all but most of it.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Will still wait for the outcome before doing a final decision. 
    But suddenly the interest has gone to the floor to avoid frustration in the future. For a company trying to make a name, asking for "trust" after this move.... Why would you trust someone with 0 past good examples of published games, that in it's first experience does this? Hoping i am wrong though :(
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited August 2018
    Did some quick searches and saw that they will be only for EU. Gotta say I feel sorry for EU after all the stuff and reviews I saw about my.com, hopefully nothing like that makes its way to NA.


    Not my comment but I think it's also important to take in this viewpoint. my.com shouldn't have any say or pull on what happens with the game or gets put in it and it seems like it'll be just that.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    The sad part is even if everything will turn out to be fine with my.com, this decision - today and in the future - cost the game a huge amount of players, who will never dare touching anything related to my.com and you won't reach those people by saying 'Trust in us!'.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    c0ug4r said:
    The sad part is even if everything will turn out to be fine with my.com, this decision - today and in the future - cost the game a huge amount of players, who will never dare touching anything related to my.com and you won't reach those people by saying 'Trust in us!'.
    I think that will be the saddest part yes, especially when they realise that IS will publish US/OCE.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Santy182 said:
    it brings some serious trust issues, even though I'm not in EU.

    I still think people are making too much of a fuzz about it and think Steven didn't give any thought to this decision, but man I really want to know what did he take into account to take that decision.
    There is no possible excuse for doing business with my.com. There is no promise or guarantee Steven can make that would convince anyone they're trustworthy, or won't fuck up along the way. 

    There's no comment he can possibly give to make this right. Intrepid simply shat all over its potential EU players with this decision, nothing more, nothing less. 

    "Yeah, lets give this known fraud and thief our business. Don't worry! He won't do anything illegal.... This time.... We think. We hope."
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    I was Really Hoping for the Game. BECAUSE it was Independent! 
    But now?
    My Hype Train is derailed and has Killed every one Living in Hopetown.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    ColourfullChaos said:
    I was Really Hoping for the Game. BECAUSE it was Independent! 
    But now?
    My Hype Train is derailed and has Killed every one Living in Hopetown.
    Rip Hopetown
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Full disclosure, I don't reside in the EU, and I have no recollection of ever dealing with any games connected to My.com/Mail.ru.  Going off the EXTREME reaction from the community, I can only imagine that these publishers have a less than savory past, in regards to gaming service. 

    While it appears this decision won't directly affect those on the NA side, I am deeply concerned for the community as a whole, and hope that Steven can explain the decision he made, and the processes by which the partnership with these companies will work for the benefit of all those invested in Ashes. 

    I hope that people will at least give Steven the courtesy of elaborating on his decision, before leaving.  If his reasoning/plan, doesn't satisfy, then what happens, happens.  But, we've come this far, together, so I'm hoping for patience.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    As much as I've been hyped about the Ashes of Creation project this has honestly put a serious dampener on things for me.

    Based on their track record alone my.com/mail.ru have an incredibly negative reputation for their poor translations, non-existent customer support, ban waves affecting legitimate users, delivering malware to users and being open to multiple hacks which culminated in the loss of user data.

    People say 'Give them a chance' but at this point they've had multiple chances already and we're supposed to believe that this time is going to be magically different?

    I honestly think having my.com involved is an extremely poor choice, it's undoubtedly going to turn people away from the game and will no doubt mean that many users will feel forced to go to NA rather than deal with them.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Rosco said:
    As much as I've been hyped about the Ashes of Creation project this has honestly put a serious dampener on things for me.

    Based on their track record alone my.com/mail.ru have an incredibly negative reputation for their poor translations, non-existent customer support, ban waves affecting legitimate users, delivering malware to users and being open to multiple hacks which culminated in the loss of user data.

    People say 'Give them a chance' but at this point they've had multiple chances already and we're supposed to believe that this time is going to be magically different?

    I honestly think having my.com involved is an extremely poor choice, it's undoubtedly going to turn people away from the game and will no doubt mean that many users will feel forced to go to NA rather than deal with them.
    Rosco said:
    As much as I've been hyped about the Ashes of Creation project this has honestly put a serious dampener on things for me.

    Based on their track record alone my.com/mail.ru have an incredibly negative reputation for their poor translations, non-existent customer support, ban waves affecting legitimate users, delivering malware to users and being open to multiple hacks which culminated in the loss of user data.

    People say 'Give them a chance' but at this point they've had multiple chances already and we're supposed to believe that this time is going to be magically different?

    I honestly think having my.com involved is an extremely poor choice, it's undoubtedly going to turn people away from the game and will no doubt mean that many users will feel forced to go to NA rather than deal with them.
    I have to say that while I'm not in EU and have had no prior experience with them, that after some researching I have to agree with this sentiment


    Unless they have had serious staff overhauls in the past year I cant imagine their coders or support staff are anything experienced for the EU side.


    That being said, I understand from stevens statements today in discord that there were some complications with the other publishers regarding contractual agreements. Meaning (from what I gathered) that the other publishers wanted more control and design influence, while My.com was content with signing on only to provide housing support and infrastructure to Intrepid specific servers.


    The customer support issue however I agree with cannot be ignored and if My.com is to remain a partner, should in no uncertain terms be held contractually liable with insurance (Financially) for members accounts and data. That would ease alot of concerns
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Publishers, in general, don't usually have that great of a reputation. However it sounds like going with My.com was the best business decision Steven could find. It appears to have been a decision that was financially sound, allowed Intrepid the amount of flexibility they wanted and also didn't interfere with the intended launch plan.

    I think people are overreacting pretty hard. Sure, I get that you might not like My.com but we haven't even seen anything yet. People are jumping to the worst conclusions and allowing their imaginations to run wild.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Glory said:
    I think people are overreacting pretty hard. Sure, I get that you might not like My.com but we haven't even seen anything yet. People are jumping to the worst conclusions and allowing their imaginations to run wild.
    I think you're doing a disservice to those who've voiced their concerns with this statement, however, it is your opinion and you're entitled to it.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Yeah..

     The thing is this. People say publishers dont influence developers and dont interfere. 
    But think about these numbers, 50% of the devs going together with my.com have said it wouldnt change their policies or non-p2w standing.. I know at least 2 teams who were convinced to go for that.
    After my.com EVERY single game became p2w. My.com has a worse trackrecord than EA, no company has turned as many games into garbage as my.com. A 100% destructionspree.

    So.. Am i sure about the devs intentions? Yes. Do i believe the devs statement? Yes. Do i believe the statement from my.com? No. Do i feel as secure about my investment as i did before? Fuck no
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Kratz said:
    Glory said:
    I think people are overreacting pretty hard. Sure, I get that you might not like My.com but we haven't even seen anything yet. People are jumping to the worst conclusions and allowing their imaginations to run wild.
    I think you're doing a disservice to those who've voiced their concerns with this statement, however, it is your opinion and you're entitled to it.
    It is possible that my statement was too harsh. However being on the discord earlier.. that is truly the takeaway I had. Some of the comments being shared were truly fanatic in nature.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    edited August 2018
    I have put No even tho I am from the EU.  Until I am told otherwise I will assume that @GMSteven would not put a game he is sooo financially invested in a position where potentially a 1/4 to a 1/3 of his subscription base would have a different gaming experience to the rest.  He has got where he is by being very fiscally cleaver.  Obviously the effect of this decision are all speculation at the mo.  But jumping on the the jump ship bandwagon is just not my style.   I have already invested a significant amount of money on this game and I have to admit I won't invest any more until I know exactly how this effects us Europeans if at all.  But I won't be jumping ship.  If we all jumped ship every time a leader made a decision we didn't like we would all be living on tiny islands like Robinson Crusoe..... Or dead.   Just my 2 cents worth. ..... Waiting with bated breath for more info.
  • ArchivedUserArchivedUser Guest
    Glory said:
    Kratz said:
    Glory said:
    I think people are overreacting pretty hard. Sure, I get that you might not like My.com but we haven't even seen anything yet. People are jumping to the worst conclusions and allowing their imaginations to run wild.
    I think you're doing a disservice to those who've voiced their concerns with this statement, however, it is your opinion and you're entitled to it.
    It is possible that my statement was too harsh. However being on the discord earlier.. that is truly the takeaway I had. Some of the comments being shared were truly fanatic in nature.
    An apt description for discord as a whole is it not ;)
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