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As i said, you are entitled to an opinion and to voice a concern
Don't do everything a stranger on the internet tells you to do. Who knows what they might ask of you next?
You mean the creative director of AoC. That stranger?
Yea.. I haven't met him, I don't know him. Sure, i know his face and what his voice sounds like, but he is just a stranger who i have no actual bond with.
It technically wouldnt, multiboxing is explicitly 1 person controlling multiple accounts.
That is because the reasons for me doing it are purely to do with challenge. It is the only way to actually find challenge in some games.
Perhaps the most interesting part of all of this is how most people actually can't even spot a multiboxer. I have quite often had groups kind of form around me while boxing in various games with open dungeon content - I'd be running around with a tank, a healer and a DPS just minding my own business, and some random passer by would ask if they could join. I'd often (though not always) say yes, and then we'd go on killing more stuff.
The number of times I'd have one of these players get in to discussions with multiple characters that I was running is actually astonishing.
On the other hand, I sometimes play with my nephew who - due to issues with his fingers is unable to always manually direct his character, so often puts it on auto follow (he is one of the best single group healers I have ever played with though).
People see the healer auto following the tank and start complaining about multiboxing - even though there is none of that happening at that point in time.
At it's very worst, multiboxing is something that people think is bad, but that never actually has any impact on them. At best, it is a thing that people can be among for hours and not even realize.
Botting, on the other hand, is easy to spot and has potential negative issues.
If people want to pay $32 to have once character put another on follow to run around gathering ore or healing them while their main dps, I can live with that. As long as they are controlled with separate devices.
It wouldnt ruin other players gameplay or server economy.
You can use virtual clients to create more.
That is p2w if you can live with that and I cant.
You cant see a virus, but it still exists and still affects things. Simply not being able to tell its happening or not seeing it is a moot point. Since you yourself arent able to tell, it doesnt mean it exists. It is still an advantage given to someone who pays more.
Except it isn't.
Tell me exactly which part of the following is where you draw the line.
I have two computers side by side. Both have an account running, I am playing one, my significant other is playing the other.
I occasionally press a button on my significant others computer to help out, when there is a thing needing to be done that they have missed.
I press more buttons than my significant other, even though they are still there and still playing.
I press all buttons on both accounts, even though my significant other is still there, still sitting at that one computer.
My significant other gets up to make a sammich, I keep playing.
Somewhere in there, there is a line that was crossed, and I want to know where you think it is.
Before answering, please keep in mind that the next question I have for you will be suggestions as to how Intrepid would be able to discern exactly if a situation arises where that line has been crossed.
None of those because none of those have anything to do with what im talking about. Steven mentioned you cant multibox on a single computer, im fine with that then. Im curious now if they can detect virtual environments. Because if they cant then you can multibox easily on a single computer. If someone wants to play on two different computers that is their perogative. You cant detect that, but virtual environments is completely different and doesnt require 3rd party software.
Multi Accounting lets you harness Alts in direct unity with a Main. Multi Accounting is often used when PvP Experience is enabled. You just kill your alts repeatedly until the maximum level is gained. Multi Accounting is required for Multi Boxing, but Multi Accounting isn't always needed for Botting. You can use Multi Accounting with Botting, and multi-accounting is the bridge to all three situations, but, multi-accounting has numerous purposes and it is impossible to say how advantageous multi-accounting will be in Ashes.
This thread isnt about botting
Thank you, I won't touch your HoHos. lol
I would assume that isboxer would fall under 3rd party software, which is not allowed.
3rd party software is misunderstood, and a very misused term.
Windows is 3rd party software.
I'm specifically referring to what Steven said about 3rd party programs and multi boxing.
Virtualization programs (including isboxer, which is the worst I've seen) interact with operating systems, not applications.
Intrepid can not have any say in anything other than what applications interact with their software.
I'm fairly certain that in their game they can make the rules and do whatever they want with it. If they say you can't run MSWord at the same time as the game because they believe it provides an unfair advantage in some way then that is their right. You may not like it or agree with it, but the fact is that in these games you don't own the game, or a licensed right to always play the game, or even your characters that you have made and invested into.
Yea after learning that im trying to figure out how virtual environments fall under this now. That made me less worried about the p2w aspect by a lot.
In this sense though. Didnt those games have fast travel?
Actually, they can't.
The portion of isboxer that interfaces with WoW would be considered against the EULA in most other games - that is why WoW is the only game it does this with.
Virtual environments have no interaction with the game client.
Then you can multibox on a single pc
Are you telling me that I shouldn't be able to open up 2 paid instances of the game, and use both of them in the same time? That's silly. You shouldn't dictate the amount of time a player spends in the game.
You can only control a single box at a time anyway. If I want a character on a second account to reach mastery in another class, why shouldn't I be able to?
They should focus on botting, and people using scripts instead. Not outright ban multiboxing.