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Pay-wall on the CC in advance
Liniker
Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
So Intrepid is considering releasing the character creator in advance only for people that pre-order the game... This gives a couple of hours headstart for people not having to worry about creating their characters at launch. I have a pre-order pack, this doesn't affect me, still I think this is messed up. Big step in the wrong direction. What happened to the "We don't need your money" ?
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Edit: Next it will be 'Why do people who have paid get to reserve their character names and not everyone else'.
There was no "we need your money" pledge, I don't know what you are smoking, injecting, or imbibing but Intrepid has been trying to get people's money from the start. They're a business, that's their reason for existing. Did you think this was a philanthropic endeavor?
Giving someone the ability to create a character ahead of time is not P2W. That's garbage. That's not quite as stupid as the suggestions that letting someone buy an outfit is P2W (and yes, we had someone very fervently making that argument) but it's not much better. How many weeks are you planning to spend doing character creation? Whatever "advantage" this would give is negligible.
I thought there is no pre-order because there is no box cost, it's a subscription game.
I think they just meant one of the pre-purchase options that is available on the store currently
I assume the OP meant pre-ordering a pack, not the game itself. And technically you are pre-ordering the game; you need a subscription to play, and the packs include game subscription time, so in a sense I suppose it's not inaccurate to say that you are pre-ordering the game itself.
purchase game before you can create a character
The other option is to store the character creator data on client's local files and then import them serverside during actual character creation - then anyone can create a character, but only subscribers can actually play.
This doesn't use any server resources, but the downside is that it could (?) put more pressure on the servers during launch since everyone will be bombarding the server with premade character datasets.
Whereas a pre-launch character creator that sets up a character on the server before launch avoids this - but then you won't want non-subscribers to create characters on the server rent free.
Got it, thanks. So it has been confirmed that the character creator will only be available prior to release for those who bought one of the packs?
no
Thanks.
/thread please
@Atama What a stupid argument. Steven said multiple times that it's not about the money, don't buy if your not 100% sold, the game is fully funded and so on..... even tho they keep pushing monthly cosmetics (that aren't even modeled and without a proper description of the individual cosmetic pieces) of an unfinished and delayed game and Now they say that they are considering limiting the character creator for pre-pack holder's only...... and That, sounds contradicting to me, and sends a negative image.
If you think that's all ok and I'm on drugs, fine, keep insulting people and being a 12yo fanboy. who cares, I'll keep giving my feedback since I want this game to succeed
.... maybe make people need to buy a subscription before they get access? why do we need to pay for an expensive pre-order pack? duh
PS: I own an expensive pack already, and multiple skins. I'ts not like I'm worried about my pocket, I just think IF they make it for backers only, that's bad.
I think a simple way to understand the OP's argument is that he is saying "early access to games is a huge benefit".
Of course, that claim is not completely wrong.
But I just don't see the benefit in it that needs to be discussed.
In the extreme case, if playing early is the best way to enjoy the game, then all new players after release are losers.
In that sense, I don't think the problem is the structure of the game, only the complaints about the early play system.👀
The base game is fully funded, but this additional income from cosmetic packs is supporting the rapid expansion of what will surely be a groundbreaking game, as well as helping us to get additional content faster.
I think you guys are missing the point of this thread.
I only said it gives an Advantage to pack holders, and that is a fact.
My point is, this is a STEP in the wrong direction for Intrepid, I do not think it's good for intrepid, a company that claims they will make things different, yet they are behind schedule, still didn't delivered us Alpha 1, to keep pushing cosmetics, pre-order packs in their website front page, and now starting to walk the line of monetizing convenience... having early access to character creation will save people's time, that sounds a bit more than a perk to me...
If you have not paid for a subscription at the point the servers are sent live, you have not pre-ordered.
If you have not paid for a subscription when the servers are sent live, there is no point in you having access to the character creator, as you have no access to teh game.
If you have launch day access to the game before launch day, then you have access to the character creator before launch day.
They did not say it was only for people that have purchased the pre-order packs that we have now, there is absolutely no reason to assume they won't open up the ability to purchase subscription time several days before the game is released.
I don't see what the issue is.
If someone is that concerned about a few minutes worth of time in game, they won't be waiting until launch day to gain access. Since they would have sorted out at least their first months access before launch day, they would also have access to the character creator before launch day.
This means the only people that won't have access to the character creator before launch day are people that don't care enough about launch day to have access to the game sorted before then.
Not only do I not see a problem here, but I also don't see any other way Intrepid could do this other than simply not releasing the character creator early, which makes no sense.
Your thread title is literally saying the opposite. If you didn’t mean to say that early character creator is P2W then you should have worded it very differently. Your thread was a failure before you even wrote the OP.
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@Merek bro.. my ashes inventory is probably worth 3 times more than yours 😂 please... even if I didn't backed the game, my argument would still be valid, that's just stupid
The problem: Only releasing the character creator for backers that paid 500$ - 375$ - 250$ and so on. Because: It's unfair with non-backers, it's another way to make people feel like they need to get a pre-order pack.
Solution: Releasing the character creator for Everyone that pays 15$ for their subscription prior to launch (that sub will start counting at day 01). Everyone is happy, It doesn't cost them anything.
simple.
So you're saying that you want to create a character before you've paid for a sub? purchase a sub before launch and create a character?
It's bad?
No it isn't.
This is just silly.
Do you go into a fast food place and help yourself to napkins and ketchup? Its not fair that only people who buy food get to enjoy ketchup with their french fries, right?
Many games give a pre-order perk or bonus for, especially will you find perks/bonuses for early crowdfunding.
It is a 'thank you' for putting something on the line way before you see anything tangible. You place some trust and hope in the Devs and their vision for the game, before there is a game!
Besides, this is not a racing game. Its an MMO based on community/collective collaboration. And if you play it as a race to the end, what do you care what your character looks like? You aren't playing the game to be a member, or to enjoy the nuances of the art or story.
"Only releasing character creator for backers who paid $500 - $375 - $250 and so on"
Are you a politician? Because you frame things like those habitual truth-spinners.
You only list high dollar amounts, but hide the lowest pre-order pack ($75) within a dismissive 'and so on'.
The base pre-order is a $75, and it includes:
I think you are deceptively suggesting that pre-order packs fall within this '$250 - $500' range.
An interested new comer may pop in here and see your deceptive statement and be turned off by such a high 'pay wall' to even get a pre-order pack.
You are doing a disservice to this endeavor with your deceptions.
I don't care if somebody gets two hours advantage over me....I just wanna fiddle with the character creator as soon as possible
Yes 100%. Hopefully they will stay away from this sort of thing with proper feedback.