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[Feedback Request] Hairstyles in Character Creator

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    An amazing like the one i showed would be amazing, this type of hairstyle presents an atmosphere of nobility, like something a duchess would use! this type of dignified hairstyles would be amazing with all the political stuff that would happen in game!
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    BeeperBeeper Member
    edited April 2022
    1. Bald. Or should I say bald styles that looks like an actual bald head, instead of just the lack of hair. Some with a bit of shine, or others with a bit of stubble.
    2. Good looking textures underneath shaved parts of the hair style.
    3. Less anime and fantastical looking styles, more realistic looking hair styles.
    4. Being able to colors different parts of the hair and beard. Blending different colors in an ombre style is really cool. If I recall the character creator for Lost Ark, or maybe it was New World, did this really freaking well.
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    I would love to see some hairstyles for the guys in the game that many refers to Japanese hair/anime hair. Final fantasy xiv does this type of hairstyles very well. Another nice concept of the hairs they do is that the hair moves abit when u move ur character and when there is wind in the game. The hair layers of this hairstyles gives a messy and some spiky look and i love to chose this hairstyles when i make a character.

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    And here is some other hairstyles i would like to see in the game ^^

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    JustVineJustVine Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    There are so many things I want for hair style. But what I really want is hair styles that are able to look good both long and short.

    You see, I like 'aging' my hair over time when the beauty parlor is easily accessible. Sometimes I like having pixie cuts, and sometimes I like overgrowing them. Sometimes shorter dreads, sometimes longer bobs and pony tails at varying lengths and angles. The more styles we have that can look both long and short, curly and straight, the better. It's one of BDO's main limitations I think Ashes could blow out of the water with the tech they showed last time.

    Over all there are some good long hair options in posts above me but I'd really like more than just a pixie cut or bob that looks good. side cuts, layered cuts, a bob that doesnt look like it was cut with a bucket, things like that. I'd love male and females to have access to all options as well. It's 2022. Some guys like long hair and some girls like short cuts. Heck can you give me a good skin mowhawk that can vary in short and long curly and straight?

    Also I will once again express how greatly I want different color gradients to do natural highlights and multicolor dye jobs on all hair colors. Split dyes, layered tip dyes, highlights, fades and the like are all appreciated color gradient options.
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    Need Viking beards that are braided with metal norse runes for the kaelar. Please no scruff mc duff beards for dah humanz(also wolf skin armor, just saying)
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    I would love to see many different hairstyles choices, from current trends to past popular trends, from many cultures all with slider options shown. Maybe even an option to combine hairstyles sections like the blend tool does for bodies.

    Also I would really really love many different beard shape options as well, sliders for making it wider or thinner at different points like high on the cheek line, the jaw line, the chin line and then the bottom of the beard to make different shapes. All within reason of course.

    Give them bounds perhaps so they fit within armour or spill out in specific gaps, you could possibly make them bend against armour too but that seems cpu intensive with so many players with different beard/hair lengths. Clipping in general isnt ideal.

    Also scars in your eyebrows from being cut there, have a toggle to make it split the eyebrow hair or not.

    Very keen to see the result, the first public iteration of the character creator is amazing!! We just want more options haha ^_^

    Cheers!
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    234Graph234Graph Member
    edited May 2022
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    We're extremely early on this so I understand the current lack of variety in hairstyles, but it's still a negative; so here are hairstyles I think would make a good addition against that.


    0. Faded-Afro bun
    1.Waves/360 waves(this would be difficult to create I think, but im sure you can do it)
    2. A regular short fade
    3.Viking breads
    4.African/Box braids
    5.Cornrows
    6.Dreadlocks
    7.Quiff
    8. Pony tails
    9.Mohawk
    10.fringe
    11. Afro shape up
    12. Twist out
    13. Afro-puffs




    Also having the addition of hair accessories like "braid beads" would be really cool.
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    T ElfT Elf Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    I posted this a long time ago but seems fitting for this discussion to repost. https://mymodernmet.com/milena-braid-hairstyles/?fbclid=IwAR0NthwMVZKEsEf9y-m4W83lRZQCWhzSMjD1PDe-8jvV_AJeYqPyq0IxMMA
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    T ElfT Elf Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Would love to see some hairstyles based on Chinese hairstyles both modern and ancient.
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    LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    I would like you to keep hairstyles according to the races lore and background, if we see it in players.. we should see it in NPCs from the same race... not every race should have the same hair options available and please don't go to crazy taking all the recommendations from this thread giving crazy pink and blue anime hairstyles to the dunir and crazy african tribal hair to the empyrean, make it realistic and coherent
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    3Snap3Snap Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    i'd say +1 to all of these suggestions. But also to make sure there are many long and short hair versions for both genders / all races. If you can spare the time on designing hairstyles i think it's well worth the effort. More ways to customise the looks of our characters will allow more diversity.

    Too often you find MMO's with way too little.
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    superhero6785superhero6785 Member
    edited April 2022
    A "Curly" slider

    Aside from choosing the style/length, if we're able to have a slider to adjust 'curliness', that would add a LOT of customization to preset styles.
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    meowsticalmeowstical Member
    edited April 2022
    I would like to see different parts of the hairstyle able to be selected and customized separately. When I tried playing a free trial of Black Desert Online I think they let you customize the front and back separately and I think that went well, however I would also like to see some asymmetric options as well so perhaps we could get some left-right separate customization of some sort as well? I think the simplest way to do it (at least on our consumer end) would be to have a number of presets which an be customized in a similar way to the body, though I imagine it could be difficult to pull off since hair is just so complex...
    Aside from styles and shapes though, I think it would be cool to have different ways for hair color to come through as well, such as a "half-and-half" sort of thing like the Chimeric Cats you see on the internet (something to look at for the Tulnar at least, I'm sure). I think a lot of people would like to place streaks of color in different places as well, whether those be natural or dyed colors. I'm curious if some races could have horizontal streaks, or lines, or bars, or what-have-you, kind of like "DEATH THE KID" from the Soul Eater anime. Humanoids generally do not come with natural striping unless they're a humanoid tiger (or that one long arm hair I found and then lost mysteriously...), so it would have to be a dyed option, which means it would be a cultural thing, and I know you want to keep the various races culturally distinct, this would be another way you could do that.... Theoretically at least.
    (Oh and during the reveal of the female Py'rai there was a comment that made it sound like the Tulnar had to have horns, but I say "Tulnar do not equal Tieflings either" and would rather have neural spines like an iguana. Edit: Or maybe the Scutes or Spikes seen on other types of reptiles as well.) Just a thought that I really wanted to share.)
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    LunariGoddessLunariGoddess Member
    edited April 2022
    I think other people already commented about this, but, LONG hair is important!. Not everyone wants shoulder length hair or short, I surely don't. So, I really hope you guys implement hairstyles, or should I say, hair lenght, that goes all the way to the waist, or even above the butt, I don't know, any hair lenght a player wants!.

    Also, hairstyles with bangs please lol.

    By the way, something really important that I want to echo not just regarding hair, but EVERYTHING in the game, is the following:

    Please, please, PLEASE, do not restrain any race and the sexes and/or genders of each one to be only one way. Like, don't restrain males to be strictly masculine, or women to be strictly feminine. I think part of having an amazing character creation tool is the uniqueness someone can create a character with. Ashes Of Creation will be a game with a lot of diversity, right?(I hope there are lots of it in different aspects of the game, not just in the character creation tool), well, don't forget real life people and obviously AOC's community are diverse too!, and this is coming from someone who creates only female and feminine characters in all games by the way, just so y'all know.

    So, I really hope that you guys take this into account and great consideration, because someone might want to create a male character with some makeup on, very long hair and/or some feminine features, or create a female character with a harsh or "masculine" complexion, or just straight up create an androgynous character, any of those would be fu**ing cool too, to create a character that is not "usual" and at the own desires and image of each person, just like in real life. It's entirely up to ANYONE who wants to create a character like that. That's the purpose of an amazing character creation tool!

    Now, again, I do hope that the character creator is not the only thing that is THAT diverse, but the whole game too in a lot of different aspects of it.

    Much love xoxo <3
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    DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Hair going to the waist will probably mostly depend on how much effort it will take to make sure the hair doesn't clip through armor.
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    LunariGoddessLunariGoddess Member
    edited April 2022
    Alright, here are some examples of hairstyles I think would be amazing. All of these can be for both male and females by the way, if you don't give af.

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    Would love to see more asymmetrical designs with sharp edges, like these:
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    Also these would be amazing too:

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    Hairstyle wise everyone has posted some amazing styles so I'm gonna focus a lot of my hopes for each race to have a wide array of colors at their disposal. Natural vs unnatural isn't a huge debate for me but I do feel bright neons tend to not only kill some of the immersion but also when put on textures dull it down and quality wise just look odd in execution. Soft pastels though? Sure.

    My hope is the ability to see gradiant in the hair. Whether its dark roots with lighter ends, interesting ombres, or highlight/lowlights. I think these are little additions when done well can really help people feel ownership to their character along with a great selection of hairstyles. I would have to second a lot of people in the request for long hairstyles. I know they generally are hard to avoid clipping issues with but it's never fun being stuck in an mmo with just short to medium lengths with just one longstyle that everyone wears because they want that fantasy length. Also rich selection of textures. Kinky, curly, wavey, and straight and a variety of styles for each.
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    I think a particularly important option might be to copy the Facial Hair system of multiple sections of hair to the head; Top, Sides, Back, specifically, in order to modularly create hair styles; with perhaps a way to "bind" hairstyles that complement each other (full head of long hair, curly hair, styled hair). Having a wild shock of top and back hair with the sides shorn down or braided or shaved as an example; the Amani and Frost Troll Mohawk with Braids would be a sick option for anyone but I'd love it for Orcs and Tulnar as an example.

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    Having options for asymmetrical hairstyles I think is key, it would be cool to have asymmetrical beard options, but I have a feeling those would be more likely to look awkward in comparison. Long hair (L E N G T H Y) is what I've seen suggested and I agree. Ornate decorations would be cool, perhaps combined into sectional options. From what I've seen I am incredibly confident in the Character Creator, but I think it would be neat to have methods for creators to make their own styles and send them in ala the Steam Workshop, perhaps having occasional events to show off and promote the hairstyles, maybe votes for bringing them aboard the official creator, of course not so far as to overcomplicate things on Intrepid's end.
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    DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Alright, here are some examples of hairstyles I think would be amazing. All of these can be for both male and females by the way, if you don't give af.
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    I especially like the hair styles in this image.
    I was thinking about posting images of La'an and Ortegas from Strange New Worlds as examples - they have shorter hair but similar buzzed sides.
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    ZombieHeartZombieHeart Member
    edited April 2022
    Okay bare with me but the actual question is at the end. So, this topic had me thinking about artwork styles and then later today a bunny was dropped on my chest when I was trying to nap and I began worrying if I could have reacted differently or possibly hatefully towards the person or bunny if the situation was different ( different animal, different person dropped it, different nap location ect) then I remembered easter was recent and maybe God put up with bunnies getting the Easter attention from people because He thought bunnies were cute, almost like the memes saying "I'll allow it". Somehow my mind from there went to thinking about Steven and how is setting a good example with embracing Easter and Christmas and christian holidays and I think he is a Christian which is inspiring, so then back to God and how He sees cuteness in bunnies and the bunny is surely considered one of the gentler friendlier, easier to be randomly dropped on a person's chest type of animal... but what if the setting was different well it wasn't but what if it was video game style, so now in my head I'm taking the cuteness and maximizing it.

    Are there multiple art styles going to be found throughout AoC? Such as a Toon world behind a painting, or a comic book artwork type area and other art styles that are dramatically different. The UI could match weirdly while our characters are in those zones..

    Are there art styles that are dramatically different located throughout the game? How about possible items that effect the world's art style for only the wearer of the item?
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    I’d like to see the ability to change the thickness and length of your hair on any individual hair/beard style, and the ability to create bald patches. I love the idea of being able to recreate real people in the character creator and think those features go a long way. I personally have a stringy, thin, patchy beard and would love to have those options for my character.
    Also I think it’s always nice to have new and different hair/beard styles that can be unlocked in game that aren’t available right off the bat in the creator. I would make these more extravagant or even comic styes because you don’t want to limit the creator at all. Thanks as always for listening to our feedback!
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    My main thing is I just want there to be a ton of "black" hairstyle options/hair textures across as many races as possible. Of course gotta go with the lore, but a lot of games tend to not have that kind of expression for any races but humans or if they do it's only the most like bestial/monstrous ones. And as a player that can be really disheartening when I can't have like, an elf for example, that reflects some aspects of me as a person. Hair being a big part of that.

    Option wise just tons of options would be really nice. From bantu knots, different kinds of breads and locs, and even like braids done up in really interesting fashions. That's really what I crave.

    Though finally I think one thing that'd be cool would be if there was a way we could customize what kind of design might be shaved into an undercut or a fade. That'd be a really awesome thing to have so even if two players both have undercut hair options the design (if any) in the buzzed portion could be different.
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    TheSturnOneTheSturnOne Member
    edited April 2022
    MxOberon wrote: »
    Though finally I think one thing that'd be cool would be if there was a way we could customize what kind of design might be shaved into an undercut or a fade. That'd be a really awesome thing to have so even if two players both have undercut hair options the design (if any) in the buzzed portion could be different.

    Perhaps we could get a specific "scar" option that changes the texture to that of "skin" that could be patterned over undercuts to get the same effect without being limited by presets?

    Edit: Just had a thought, such a 'scar' could also be used for facial hair and eyebrows for those cool parted brow styles and sculpted short beards.
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    edited April 2022
    Just give me Thranduil from The Hobbit hairstyle for both males and females and i'm happy :)

    And please keep hairstyles somewhat realistic, no real life looking fades with sharp edges like i saw someone posting above.
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    maouwmaouw Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    I have a suggestion for a layered workflow for customizable hairstyles (hi engineers ;) )

    Start with some options for customizing the hairline:
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    Then choose the base canvas of the hairstyle:
    Buzz
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    Shaggy
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    Pulled back
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    Finally, add pre-designed hair chunks (I called them tufts?). Would be cool if we could drag-drop these onto the heads too :)
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    Stray Hairs
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    Curtains
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    Please give us options to stretch/bend these pieces (as well as move/scale/rotate)
    If you give each piece an anchor that must be attached to the scalp, we should be able to shape the rest of the piece to get what we want (ignoring hair extensions)

    If we have a variety of these attachables then we'll be able to make things like:
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    The buzz canvas could work really well with the game's scar system
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    This might be an overwhelming system to break down, but I think you can divide most hairstyles into these partitions:
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    Top:
    • Middle/Side Partings
    • Bangs/Parted Bangs/Whispy Bangs
    • Side-sweeps
    • Mohawks
    • Major braids
    • Cowlicks

    Side:
    • Fades
    • Cornbraids/Fishtail braids/other braids
    • side-hanging curls
    • Shoulder splashes
    • Bob cuts

    Sideburns:
    • Fades
    • Whispy curls
    • Tucked-behind-ear
    • Straight edge
    • lamb chops
    • options to connect to beards/moustaches

    Back:
    • Mullets
    • Long Curtains
    • Braids
    • Tied Hair
    • Shoulder length

    It will probably get fiddly, so please give us options to tweak these too!

    Finally I need to acknowledge that there are some amazing hairstyles that just won't fit into this system like these ones:
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    ZalemZalem Member
    Ethnic hairstyles. Guild Wars 2 has some nice options for black hair, so that's the very minimum you should do. Traditional Chinese, Japanese and Korean hairstyles (both male and female). Long hair for GUYS and not just girls. I should be able to have either super short or super long hair regardless of my gender.
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    I like short, simple hair, maybe with a ponytail on the side. But what interests me even more is the color scheme. I've already noticed that it shouldn't be too colourful, but should also adapt to the world. Nevertheless, I myself usually go with shades of green. So approaches in this direction would also be interesting for me, even if it might not be as intense as I'm used to.kjwvdfopanfe.bmp
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    SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Another elven demon nymph rendition (pigtails). Sorry for the quality. My own private collection is protected much like my own IPs. Cheers, Neu.

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    JustVineJustVine Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    maouw wrote: »
    I have a suggestion for a layered workflow for customizable hairstyles (hi engineers ;) )

    Start with some options for customizing the hairline:
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    ~

    Then choose the base canvas of the hairstyle:
    Buzz
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    Shaggy
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    Pulled back
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    ~

    Finally, add pre-designed hair chunks (I called them tufts?). Would be cool if we could drag-drop these onto the heads too :)
    Buns
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    Stray Hairs
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    Curtains
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    Please give us options to stretch/bend these pieces (as well as move/scale/rotate)
    If you give each piece an anchor that must be attached to the scalp, we should be able to shape the rest of the piece to get what we want (ignoring hair extensions)

    If we have a variety of these attachables then we'll be able to make things like:
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    (referenced from here)

    ~

    The buzz canvas could work really well with the game's scar system
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    ~

    This might be an overwhelming system to break down, but I think you can divide most hairstyles into these partitions:
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    Top:
    • Middle/Side Partings
    • Bangs/Parted Bangs/Whispy Bangs
    • Side-sweeps
    • Mohawks
    • Major braids
    • Cowlicks

    Side:
    • Fades
    • Cornbraids/Fishtail braids/other braids
    • side-hanging curls
    • Shoulder splashes
    • Bob cuts

    Sideburns:
    • Fades
    • Whispy curls
    • Tucked-behind-ear
    • Straight edge
    • lamb chops
    • options to connect to beards/moustaches

    Back:
    • Mullets
    • Long Curtains
    • Braids
    • Tied Hair
    • Shoulder length

    It will probably get fiddly, so please give us options to tweak these too!

    Finally I need to acknowledge that there are some amazing hairstyles that just won't fit into this system like these ones:
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    Heck yes. This looks good.
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