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Phase I of Alpha Two testing will occur on weekends. Each weekend is scheduled to start on Fridays at 10 AM PT and end on Sundays at 10 PM PT. Find out more here.
Check out Alpha Two Announcements here to see the latest Alpha Two news and update notes.
Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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I mean, Intrepid will have internal goals for things they want in the game that aren't all from the kickstarter. If Intrepid had crossbows as a goal to add to the game if they had the time, that could constitute a stretch goal - which is literally all Steven said crossbows ever were - and since there was no mention at all of them on the kickstarter page, (which anyone can still go to), we can't then claim crossbows were a kickstarter stretch goal.
I didn't mean to upset you, but you're wrong... https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/лучник
People can think a meme is interesting, and think that "constructive feedback" is not, and not be offended.
Calling something "snot" is about as far from being offended as it is possible to be. It is comical, at best, not an indicator of being offended.
They need to launch a core viable product, and improve the game from there.
Just don't engage with that guy, everyone around here knows he's just a dickhead with anger management issues
Вы русский?
You’re trying to compare the Russian language with English, when they are completely different. How does this wiki disprove what I said about this word being created prior to the invention of the crossbow? Yes you’re right лучник is derived from the word лук, I never disagreed. I simply stated that the authentic translation would be “bower”, because that is how the word is made, and this word obviously existed before the invention of crossbows so its clear that when they invented bows they came up with the word “bower”. You’re trying to roughly translate it. So i’m not wrong, your link even points out its history and being a луконосный (воин). Not only were bows invented before the crossbow (oh look, the word crossbow comes from the word bow, its interesting) bows were more accessible.
I simply found your little comment about the word quaint and amusing. This topic really has nothing to do with the forum conversation though so let’s call a truce and end it there.
Fair points. I agree, I don’t think i’d miss parlor games or the monster coins, also I’m not a fan of the family teleport system so i’d be okay if they dismissed that.
And yeah you’re right, I need to stop responding to some people. I usually try to be negotiable, but when people respond rudely I can get a bit argumentative, i’m just feeding the negativity at this point though.
happy to take on that first title (not sure if Intrepid would let the comment stand though...). The second though, nope.
Forums are text. You can't really ascertain anger from text unless someone specifically says they are angry.
if you are reading my posts as being angry, I can only assume you are projecting.
Thanks guys for pointing this out. I was going off of the quote from Steven and made an incorrect inference. Appreciate yall
It's just that this post originally started as a call to riot. 😅
Steven has always tried to at least preach against scope creep, so sticking to a decision that was made, in this case some time ago, is admirable.
The game loses nothing, especially at launch, by not having these... and who says they can't be part of an expansion down the road?
But as you say, it's not just about these weapons... and with that in mind... also no. I don't think it means anything at all, certainly not doom, for the future... they're trying to stick to their plan as best they can, and we as backers cannot know every single minor move or change they make during the process.
Because you see something in alpha 1+2 or talked about, doesn't mean it will be there on release.
Usual answer.
I was not talking about you @Noaani you are chill
DDonline, rogue can specialize into mechanic, figthing with crossbow, throwing flask, alchemical trap,bomb:
https://ddowiki.com/page/Mechanic_enhancements
so i'm really sad about this removal, i love unique weapon and inovative gameplay customization.
i hope it's not like Wow unpruning bs and in the end you are linked to 1 or 2 weapons.
AoC class wish: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/422108#Comment_422108
Ah, my mistake.
To be fair, I read his posts with an angry voice.
Everquest as well, Rogue's generally use a dagger (some rapiers) mainhand as they are the only weapons granted backstab bonuses, but offhand they can use any 1 hand weapon outside of monk type weaps, maces axes swords etc.
I have tried several times to find my old DDO login info, lol that game was underated with the exception of the character creator.
Both are still going lol, nothing stopping you.
AoC class wish: https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/422108#Comment_422108
Thankfully those 2 are not even close to being any of AoCs main attractive features and i certainly wouldn't mind more side/less relevant things being pushed to future updates or straight up being removed from the early build.
This one gives off an awful slippery slope fallacy scent... But who knows, many MMORPGs have things scrapped during their developments, considering Ashes open development it might not differ from others in this regard.
Aren't we all sinners?
are you a lawyer?
You need to realize things being cut in development is normal. Because im sure you don't want to hear they will prob add crossbows after launch at a random undisclosed time based on the game and launch and their plana nd long term road map they have most likely not started much on that.
Intrepid makes a tiny change to help move things along which has a minimal impact on anything... they have given up and are ruining the game!
The sense of entitlement from the community is getting out of hand imo.
This sucks and is a bad look, to me.
I can empathize with the people it affects because of their class fantasy, and while I don't share it explicitly, I do like that weapon and the things some games do with it.
The reason given for the change seems really suspicious to me, and has tipped my group much closer to 'sooo... what's your refund policy again?' territory.
We want to care about this game still, but certain things are 'making it difficult'. That's fine, not every game is for everyone and changes are part of development. Some changes will lose some people. Crossbows alone will not lose us, but the implication of the reason Steven gave for their removal sounds like it may lead to a game we won't end up playing.
For whatever that's worth.