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Having LFG would be fine

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  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Neurath wrote: »
    I mean Global Chat from a1 - a continuation of that. Its called Global Chat but its a Regional Chat. So to be more specific I mean a Regional Chat (Probably better to rename Global Chat to Regional Chat if Steven reads this lol).
    Alpha1 was tiny so "regional chat" could work across it all. So again, just to make sure this entire fucking thing hasn't been an utter misunderstanding, do you want a chat that works across the entire server or do you want a chat that spans a certain region, and if you walk into another region this same chat would have different members?

    Yeah, if that is the case I don't think any of us actually disagree, except maybe Mag, on what kind of chat we would like.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Neurath wrote: »
    Yeah, that's why the devs called it Global Chat. Because it could work across it all. But, its a regional chat because it only covered a region. So, a replication of 'Global Chat' for multiple regions of the map. By that, I mean you would talk with different people dependant on your location. I'm not sure how Regional Chat would work in the ocean but otherwise I do want to converse with others in the region. However, there are micro regions and macro regions. So, continent chat is not requested or two factions will form. I'd still want to talk to people in the north of a region from the south of a region and vice versa.
    Jesus fucking christ. YOU DON'T WANT GLOBAL CHAT.

    This entire forum will never understand each other for none of us can properly communicate ffs.

    That one poster that was super adamant about proper language was right. Gdi. Fuck alpha1 and its terminology. I thought we were discussing the released game and how stuff will work there.

    Depraved and Mag seem to want true global chats. Azherae agrees with them for her own reasons. And you're in the middle, because you want separate chats, simply for bigger swaths of land than what I want.

    This is fucking dps meters all over again. 10 sides talking about 10 things while thinking that some of the other sides agree with them, even though that side only agrees with their own point :D Fucking hell
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Yeah, if that is the case I don't think any of us actually disagree, except maybe Mag, on what kind of chat we would like.
    I do still prefer smaller chats, but I'd be somewhat fine if we get regional chats that cover maybe 1/4-1/3 of the land.
  • PlasticLemonsPlasticLemons Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    I’m not going to read 7 pages of forum banter but I will toss in my feedback and say that the bulletin board is literally the LFG screen that people want. It’s region specific because who wants to travel all the way across the world to do a dungeon. If you do want to, make the journey and then search the bulletin board there. It’s a great system already planned.
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Yeah, if that is the case I don't think any of us actually disagree, except maybe Mag, on what kind of chat we would like.
    I do still prefer smaller chats, but I'd be somewhat fine if we get regional chats that cover maybe 1/4-1/3 of the land.

    I mean I think there should be a chat that encompasses more people that the citizen chat without it being too big so I don't think it should be bigger than a node or how you put it with the vassal chain would be good to.
  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Regional Chat could just cover the 5 castle zones if you ask me. Could even call it 'Kingdom Chat'.
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  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Neurath wrote: »
    Regional Chat could just cover the 5 castle zones if you ask me. Could even call it 'Kingdom Chat'.
    Then why in the everliving hell didn't you say so from the start!? :D

    I can totally agree with a 1/5 chat, be it metro chain or castle zoi. Hell, having both would be more fun because there'd be different overlap that would lead to more spying and trading of info.

    But none of that is "global".
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    I’m not going to read 7 pages of forum banter but I will toss in my feedback and say that the bulletin board is literally the LFG screen that people want. It’s region specific because who wants to travel all the way across the world to do a dungeon. If you do want to, make the journey and then search the bulletin board there. It’s a great system already planned.

    I mean its mainly a QoL feature I would like added. Instead of everyone being in one spot shouting for members for whatever activity they have planned they can post it on a board for people check out and an area for people to meet at and adventure out from. It's not something I "need" but is something I would like to see implemented. As for the bulletin boards already planned, and maybe I misread the wiki, but I don't think they are planning to have a place on it to post for parties or guilds. I mean you could maybe argue the posting of quests but without more info I just don't know.

  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    maybe I misread the wiki, but I don't think they are planning to have a place on it to post for parties or guilds.
    I will definitely be giving feedback for this to be the case. Because to me that's the entire point of those boards. It's a place for people to learn about groups of people that operate within their direct surroundings. It's the "we're a small casual group of dudes being bois at 2 am on every tuesday" kind of posts that should be present on those boards, because this is how you build a small but tightknit community.
  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Neurath wrote: »
    Regional Chat could just cover the 5 castle zones if you ask me. Could even call it 'Kingdom Chat'.
    Then why in the everliving hell didn't you say so from the start!? :D

    I can totally agree with a 1/5 chat, be it metro chain or castle zoi. Hell, having both would be more fun because there'd be different overlap that would lead to more spying and trading of info.

    But none of that is "global".

    I merely wanted the same functions we had in a1 and unfortunately, the a1 option was called Global. I don't envision an actual Global Chat in the live game because Steven said he was opposed to an actual Global Chat a while ago.
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  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    NiKr wrote: »
    maybe I misread the wiki, but I don't think they are planning to have a place on it to post for parties or guilds.
    I will definitely be giving feedback for this to be the case. Because to me that's the entire point of those boards. It's a place for people to learn about groups of people that operate within their direct surroundings. It's the "we're a small casual group of dudes being bois at 2 am on every tuesday" kind of posts that should be present on those boards, because this is how you build a small but tightknit community.

    I agree but according to the wiki it will be used mainly for marketplace stuff such as finding what player stall has the stuff you're looking for, players can post quests, and Mayors can post Jobs. It also says that all this is supposed to "encourage localized grouping" but nothing on there says anything about posting parties requests or guild ads.
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    As i said before per Area you have a chat and it is divided into trade, lfg, etc. And if you want access to more areas you add them in your channels. You aren't limited to only talking in your one area.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    Neurath wrote: »
    I merely wanted the same functions we had in a1 and unfortunately, the a1 option was called Global. I don't envision an actual Global Chat in the live game because Steven said he was opposed to an actual Global Chat a while ago.
    This is fucking funnier than that one time Rick turned himself into a pickle. You were literally the one who said "who cares what you call your chat, it's about the functions" and then you went on to argue with me about the NEED for a GLOBAL chat for 7 damn pages, all while not even wanting one :D
    I agree but according to the wiki it will be used mainly for marketplace stuff such as finding what player stall has the stuff you're looking for, players can post quests, and Mayors can post Jobs. It also says that all this is supposed to "encourage localized grouping" but nothing on there says anything about posting parties requests or guild ads.
    This is where we use Steven's beloved "it's a work in progress" against him and yell off the rooftops about wanting more board functionality B)
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    This is where we use Steven's beloved "it's a work in progress" against him and yell off the rooftops about wanting more board functionality B)

    100%. If it's not in on Alpha Two it will be something I will be requesting constantly for sure.
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    As i said before per Area you have a chat and it is divided into trade, lfg, etc. And if you want access to more areas you add them in your channels. You aren't limited to only talking in your one area.

    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 2023
    Or you just let people communicate rather than making 100 and 1 special features for board so it becomes less of a meme (but in reality will be as discord will be a better board than anything).

    The reality of board without global chat is people will use it to post their discord. You are holding on to it as a weapon to try to convince yourself you are right.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?
    Yeah, this question, cause now we've got yet another side of it all :D people, ffs, do any of yall even know what "global" means. Now there's area chats, but all those area chats are available to you at all times, which is pretty much global chat but scuffed as fuck, exactly because global chat just doesn't work when directly implemented.

    In a few more messages we'll learn that fucking none of us want a proper global chat :D
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    So, just to be sure now, @Neurath do you want the same thing or are you ok with regional chats only being accessible if you're in said region?
  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?
    Yeah, this question, cause now we've got yet another side of it all :D people, ffs, do any of yall even know what "global" means. Now there's area chats, but all those area chats are available to you at all times, which is pretty much global chat but scuffed as fuck, exactly because global chat just doesn't work when directly implemented.

    In a few more messages we'll learn that fucking none of us want a proper global chat :D
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    So, just to be sure now, @Neurath do you want the same thing or are you ok with regional chats only being accessible if you're in said region?

    I want the area chats to be accessible only to those in the actual area. I do not consider an area chat to be an area chat if you can access it from anywhere. The exception to this is node citizen chat which I think should work anywhere on the map. So, 'Kingdom Chat' would have to make an announcement and the Mayors would have to spread the message if the message is important. Much like real life.
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  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    As i said before per Area you have a chat and it is divided into trade, lfg, etc. And if you want access to more areas you add them in your channels. You aren't limited to only talking in your one area.

    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?

    Exactly you can communicate anywhere you want, it gives people the choice to interact globally or not. I had mentioned this already and how it divides the chats and location of people.
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    Or you just let people communicate rather than making 100 and 1 special features for board so it becomes less of a meme (but in reality will be as discord will be a better board than anything).

    The reality of board without global chat is people will use it to post their discord. You are holding on to it as a weapon to try to convince yourself you are right.

    Or you can just answer the question instead of being a passive aggressive prick. No one has been rude, merely asking questions and anytime someone throws you any resistance to your take you act out like a child. So please, either answer the question and we can continue a discussion or just don't post.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    Exactly you can communicate anywhere you want, it gives people the choice to interact globally or not. I had mentioned this already and how it divides the chats and location of people.
    So instead of a proper singular global chat you now want people to spam their lfgs or trades across several chats :D

    It gets better with every message. Or do you want some message limiter on "global" messages, which would defeat the whole purpose of a global communication?
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?
    Yeah, this question, cause now we've got yet another side of it all :D people, ffs, do any of yall even know what "global" means. Now there's area chats, but all those area chats are available to you at all times, which is pretty much global chat but scuffed as fuck, exactly because global chat just doesn't work when directly implemented.

    In a few more messages we'll learn that fucking none of us want a proper global chat :D
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    So, just to be sure now, @Neurath do you want the same thing or are you ok with regional chats only being accessible if you're in said region?

    You are missing the point on global chat, it is all global in reality but it is done correctly. Same way guild is also global.

    Your point is you want nearby chat and shout which is slightly further. We want to communicate and build connections anywhere. We don't want a board which is a glorified mailbox being how you try to communicate and get groups going as the sole source.

    No one uses mailbox's in mmorpgs to me its weird as hell you are pushing for it. If we went on the street and asked people that played mmorpgs they would all be like that is actually crazy and ask why,
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    Exactly you can communicate anywhere you want, it gives people the choice to interact globally or not. I had mentioned this already and how it divides the chats and location of people.
    So instead of a proper singular global chat you now want people to spam their lfgs or trades across several chats :D

    It gets better with every message. Or do you want some message limiter on "global" messages, which would defeat the whole purpose of a global communication?

    There will always be limits based on intended scroll feed and interactions.

    By your logic there should be no limits on gathering materials or pk counts then. So are you down to remove all limits on AoC?
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    There will always be limits based on intended scroll feed and interactions.
    So instead of having normal conversations on global scale people will simply use their limited messages on lfgs/trades/guild recruitment.

    Sounds like an amazing system definitely meant to support communication between people :D
  • SongcallerSongcaller Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    NiKr wrote: »
    So tell me if I am misunderstanding. So you want an "Area" chat for each area and under that you have lfg, trade, and so on. And from your tabs you can switch to any "Area" chat at anytime from anywhere?
    Yeah, this question, cause now we've got yet another side of it all :D people, ffs, do any of yall even know what "global" means. Now there's area chats, but all those area chats are available to you at all times, which is pretty much global chat but scuffed as fuck, exactly because global chat just doesn't work when directly implemented.

    In a few more messages we'll learn that fucking none of us want a proper global chat :D
    u15aljghj8vu.gif

    So, just to be sure now, @Neurath do you want the same thing or are you ok with regional chats only being accessible if you're in said region?

    You are missing the point on global chat, it is all global in reality but it is done correctly. Same way guild is also global.

    Your point is you want nearby chat and shout which is slightly further. We want to communicate and build connections anywhere. We don't want a board which is a glorified mailbox being how you try to communicate and get groups going as the sole source.

    No one uses mailbox's in mmorpgs to me its weird as hell you are pushing for it. If we went on the street and asked people that played mmorpgs they would all be like that is actually crazy and ask why,

    If at all possible I want to have chats free of restrictions. Of course anti spam is preferrable but I don't want to pay to use the chats, have items for the chats or permissions for the chats. I think ignore functions, block functions and blacklist functions are enough. Entry should be predefined and available to anyone who wants to partake. The 'Kingdom Chat' is far superior to /shout or Node Citizen Chat. If you experienced A1 you'd understand how good 'Global Chat' was and that was only a 'Regional Chat'.
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  • DepravedDepraved Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Neurath wrote: »
    Yeah, that's why the devs called it Global Chat. Because it could work across it all. But, its a regional chat because it only covered a region. So, a replication of 'Global Chat' for multiple regions of the map. By that, I mean you would talk with different people dependant on your location. I'm not sure how Regional Chat would work in the ocean but otherwise I do want to converse with others in the region. However, there are micro regions and macro regions. So, continent chat is not requested or two factions will form. I'd still want to talk to people in the north of a region from the south of a region and vice versa.
    Jesus fucking christ. YOU DON'T WANT GLOBAL CHAT.

    This entire forum will never understand each other for none of us can properly communicate ffs.

    That one poster that was super adamant about proper language was right. Gdi. Fuck alpha1 and its terminology. I thought we were discussing the released game and how stuff will work there.

    Depraved and Mag seem to want true global chats. Azherae agrees with them for her own reasons. And you're in the middle, because you want separate chats, simply for bigger swaths of land than what I want.

    This is fucking dps meters all over again. 10 sides talking about 10 things while thinking that some of the other sides agree with them, even though that side only agrees with their own point :D Fucking hell

    we need dps meter chat
  • Mag7spyMag7spy Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Mag7spy wrote: »
    There will always be limits based on intended scroll feed and interactions.
    So instead of having normal conversations on global scale people will simply use their limited messages on lfgs/trades/guild recruitment.

    Sounds like an amazing system definitely meant to support communication between people :D

    People will use it for all kinds of reasons not limited to only lfg/trade/guild recruitment.
    Plenty of types of people exist with different motivations, I don't know how you can't see that in a mmorpg with tons of people. You are walling yourself off to try to ignore that reality.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    Depraved wrote: »
    we need dps meter chat
    Now THAT we can definitely agree on :D
  • TeemEmuricaTeemEmurica Member, Alpha Two
    NiKr wrote: »
    Depraved wrote: »
    we need dps meter chat
    Now THAT we can definitely agree on :D

    No one will misunderstand each other if everyone just agrees with my opinion.
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