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Simple question. Do you want Ashes to succeed, or fail?

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  • RonDog98RonDog98 Member, Alpha Two
    Ludullu_(NiKr) wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    We had hype and momentum going into A2 showcase, now its everyone spitting fire, raging against the machine.
    And I wish that hype continued. But we at first got delayed from the inital promise. Then we got a staggered release of the A2. With a staggered high pricepoint. Which led to the drama. Which led to a huge overcorrection. Which led to initial backer drama. Which has now led TO YET ANOTHER OVERCORRECTION.

    And none of that came directly from complainers, because complainers could only react to what Intrepid was doing.

    I'm still hyped for A2. I'll still be there on day one sitting in a queue waiting for the broken servers to come back up. I'll still shower Intrepid with a ton of feedback on anything they ask me to test.

    But I cannot agree with telling people to stop giving feedback about Intrepid's fuckups, especially when there's been several of them in a row, especially when quite a few of them relate directly to people's money (both already-spent and about-to-be-spent ones).

    As Crow said, this will blowover soon, just as all previous "dramas" have. People have goldfish brains. And with all the hype surrounding Ashes, the more followers the game has - the more goldfish brains.
    Ludullu_(NiKr) wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    We had hype and momentum going into A2 showcase, now its everyone spitting fire, raging against the machine.
    And I wish that hype continued. But we at first got delayed from the inital promise. Then we got a staggered release of the A2. With a staggered high pricepoint. Which led to the drama. Which led to a huge overcorrection. Which led to initial backer drama. Which has now led TO YET ANOTHER OVERCORRECTION.

    And none of that came directly from complainers, because complainers could only react to what Intrepid was doing.

    I'm still hyped for A2. I'll still be there on day one sitting in a queue waiting for the broken servers to come back up. I'll still shower Intrepid with a ton of feedback on anything they ask me to test.

    But I cannot agree with telling people to stop giving feedback about Intrepid's fuckups, especially when there's been several of them in a row, especially when quite a few of them relate directly to people's money (both already-spent and about-to-be-spent ones).

    As Crow said, this will blowover soon, just as all previous "dramas" have. People have goldfish brains. And with all the hype surrounding Ashes, the more followers the game has - the more goldfish brains.

    I’m very curious what that outline of fuck ups is. I thought I’ve been following close but I guess not.

  • Ayeveegaming1Ayeveegaming1 Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    ralangorf wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Ludullu_(NiKr) wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Hopefully your beta issue is/will be addressed soon.
    Nah, I'm too small of a niche to care about in this context. There's maybe a few dozen people out there with giveaway A2 keys and ONLY B2 bundles. If even dozens :D It's a very very precise combination of things.

    If you can't get it, I have extra beta keys from Kickstart and I could gift you one.

    Hey just a shot in the dark but if you still have that code I'd really like it. I missed the last package window by a week and now keys are two weeks later entry

    sorry bud, I do not. I have some friends that already claimed them.
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  • nanfoodlenanfoodle Member, Founder, Kickstarter, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    LaZzIsFree wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Kilion wrote: »
    From where I stand projections on amount of content and time of delivery are nothing more than an inside joke with the fine difference that for Ashes there is an actual end goal compared to for example Star Citizen.

    Well said. Thank you for your statement.

    Star citizen is the best example of anybody still believing they are "developing in a good speed"

    Star citizen .. infamous for taking forever .....
    kickstartet in 2012 ... and the persistens universe was released in 2015 ... so three years after the kickstarter...

    this mmorpg here is 8 years in developement and we still wait on the first time anybody others than the A1 testers 3 years ago get into the game ... this is even WAYYYYYY slower than star citizen ...

    additionally .... ill spam my frustration as many times as i want ... since i feel mistreated big time ...

    There is very few forums that would agree with your thoughts on SC. Most gamers see it as the scam it is. I hope the people that poured their money into, find some happiness.
  • LudulluLudullu Member, Alpha Two
    RonDog98 wrote: »
    I’m very curious what that outline of fuck ups is. I thought I’ve been following close but I guess not.
    Delays on releases and showcases. An issue with the givaway during the last charity stream. Some misspeaking about design info, that has to be cleared up later (which usually only happens on discord).

    All of this just chips away at the image of their competency. And then we get to this key (now bundle) debacle and it definitely doesn't help in any way with that image.

    Yes, it's great that they change stuff due to feedback, but how much bett would it be if that particular feedback didn't need to be stated.
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  • OtrOtr Member, Alpha Two
    nanfoodle wrote: »
    LaZzIsFree wrote: »
    Ravicus wrote: »
    Kilion wrote: »
    From where I stand projections on amount of content and time of delivery are nothing more than an inside joke with the fine difference that for Ashes there is an actual end goal compared to for example Star Citizen.

    Well said. Thank you for your statement.

    Star citizen is the best example of anybody still believing they are "developing in a good speed"

    Star citizen .. infamous for taking forever .....
    kickstartet in 2012 ... and the persistens universe was released in 2015 ... so three years after the kickstarter...

    this mmorpg here is 8 years in developement and we still wait on the first time anybody others than the A1 testers 3 years ago get into the game ... this is even WAYYYYYY slower than star citizen ...

    additionally .... ill spam my frustration as many times as i want ... since i feel mistreated big time ...

    There is very few forums that would agree with your thoughts on SC. Most gamers see it as the scam it is. I hope the people that poured their money into, find some happiness.

    I hope they don't. Is bad for the game industry. People should not assume in advance the risk of failure which is caused by developer's incompetence or lies. There should be competition on the market and the better developers to succeed because they are doing better games.
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