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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    oh the outrage, the audacity of creating something remotely looking very much like an actual human being (or even humanoid...), truly an abomination u.u btw your misogyny couldn't scream louder 😆; obviously you a "bit" disturbed in that head im afraid you probably not even certain what you are anymore

    I don't understand this prospective.

    As a human that is more attractive than my in-game abomination I find it annoying that people would defend the state of AOCs character models.

    Coping that everything is in its minimal state is one thing but advocating for it to be this way I just don't understand.

    It is a failure point for the game that will drive people away. It could be a reason the game fails.
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    This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.

  • K, Keep the delusion up i guess lol

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    Sure 😂any day (btw the feeling is mutual worry not)
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    I don't understand this prospective.

    As a human that is more attractive than my in-game abomination I find it annoying that people would defend the state of AOCs character models.

    Coping that everything is in its minimal state is one thing but advocating for it to be this way I just don't understand.

    It is a failure point for the game that will drive people away. It could be a reason the game fails.

    Well imagine reading...if you did... i did state it does need improvements its a must at this point, even gw2 has more presets options
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    The Confirmation that the Forum will be like this until at least November kinda pisses me off. :D not gonna lie. I knew it would be this way since around July to Autumn and damn is it annoying. :D

    But it is as it is.

    There is one thing that would interest me, though.

    Are there any Talks between Sir Steven and his mighty Crew and the Tester Community about how well the Use and Utilization of Data gained from the Testers is doing ?

    I am aware they can't speed things up. They have to keep coding to at least November to ready the Summoner and a few other Mechanics, right ?

    But how well are they doing with the Data gained from the Testers ? I think i've never asked this before - and i have no Idea if someone else ever asked this.
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    Well imagine reading...if you did... i did state it does need improvements its a must at this point, even gw2 has more presets options

    I read your posts. A lot of caps and exclamation.
    oh the outrage, the audacity of creating something remotely looking very much like an actual human being (or even humanoid...), truly an abomination u.u btw your misogyny couldn't scream louder 😆; obviously you a "bit" disturbed in that head im afraid you probably not even certain what you are anymore

    I still don't understand this prospective.

    Are Koreans and body builders not human?
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Are Koreans and body builders not human ?

    " I AM ABANDONING MY HUMANITY, VHAEYNEEEE !!! " - :D
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  • KallyshaKallysha Member
    edited October 5
    Vhaeyne wrote: »

    I still don't understand this prospective.

    Are Koreans and body builders not human?

    ???? what are you on about?

    (maybe you dont get sarcasm (wonder why...) and sarcasm is my expertise)
    Vhaeyne wrote: »

    As a human that is more attractive than my in-game abomination...

    what are you referring to? what is that 'that'? yourself?

    I can pull up a strong attitude yes! be aware 
  • Aszkalon wrote: »
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Are Koreans and body builders not human ?

    " I AM ABANDONING MY HUMANITY, VHAEYNEEEE !!! " - :D

    You not the only one unfortunately (maybe as if in a coincidence the 3 of you happen all to be koreans and on top of it also body builders?)...
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    Plus i was just scrolling on yt rn and there it was one like you in there (aka deranged/unhinged/completely out of this world delulu/(i know absolutely nothing at all, BUT) Know it all),
    the title of the fake propaganda was » Ghost of Yotei sold 0 copies«
    i proceed to open twitch and
    you wont believe it
    for my surprise and of many
    there is like a lot of people playing
    and you do ask HOW is it possible
    I dunno who would have thought [ i hope you catch the sarcasm this time]

    Actually is probably the 3rd or 4rt of the same as just of today that appear like a plague on my yt feed;
    (side note ») I even tried to block (im going to drop for a second my composure) that ugly ass face aka called asmongold out of my feed,
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    cuz as a palgue it kept on showing up AND THAT THING STILL SHOWS UP (as in shorts that is) after ive done it

    Aslo to @Aszkalon this as well showed up https://youtu.be/IEpd2SVw0F8?si=urL7qiYDrmR6i5hb&t=644 10:44
    reminder of our prior i dont know if we can really call it a conversation

    P.S.: I look forward for Witcher 4 and Fable 😁
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Kallysha wrote: »
    P.S.: I look forward for Witcher 4 and Fable 😁

    My Hopes are low. But MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE i get surprised with Witcher 4 - and it is actually purchasable and i don't have to identify as Non-Buy-nary again, lol.


    I am excited for the Summoner. :heart: You all know which Game. :mrgreen:
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited October 6
    Kallysha wrote: »
    (maybe you dont get sarcasm (wonder why...) and sarcasm is my expertise)

    You are not much of an expert if your "sarcasm" does not work.
    Kallysha wrote: »
    what are you referring to? what is that 'that'? yourself?

    Yes, myself and I would bet most people look better IRL than anything they could hope to create with the awful state of the character creator. This is my main issue with the character models.
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    This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
  • Vhaeyne wrote: »
    You are not much of an expert if your "sarcasm" does not work.

    Yes, myself and I would bet most people look better IRL than anything they could hope to create with the awful state of the character creator. This is my main issue with the character models.

    Well that is on you if you are not capable of understanding sarcasm, not my fault 😄

    And once again been stated it absolutely needs improvements
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  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 6
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Yes, myself and I would bet most people look better IRL than anything they could hope to create with the awful state of the character creator. This is my main issue with the character models.

    I think with Character Creators like :
    - Skyrim
    - Eldenring
    - pretty much any Souls Game
    - BALDURS GATE THREE (!!!)
    :o . :wink:
    - The 2018(??) Presentations of Ashes of Creation itself

    this may sound easier said than done, but why not try to put all praised Options together and create something like the best Mix out of all of them ? There is nothing to lose and everything to win, right ?
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited October 6
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    I think with Character Creators like :
    - Skyrim
    - Eldenring
    - pretty much any Souls Game
    - BALDURS GATE THREE (!!!)
    :o . :wink:
    - The 2018(??) Presentations of Ashes of Creation itself

    this may sound easier said than done, but why not try to put all praised Options together and create something like the best Mix out of all of them ? There is nothing to lose and everything to win, right ?

    I have said in the past that I am very optimistic they will get there. The promise they made the community was "On par or better than Black Desert."

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    The only issues that keep me discussing this is the lack of progress since Alpha 1 shown to the community and the potential for them to purposely be making the characters ugly like many modern western games.

    It is still not proven that they will purposely limit beauty. It could just honestly be how bad the "Minimum Viable Product" is. It is still always something to worry about with any modern western studio.

    Ugly characters will only limit the game's ability to grow. People that could be into Ashes old-school PvX style might skip over it of Aion2 or something else because the looks are a non-starter.
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  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.

    Between Zero for nothing - and Hundred for Everything,

    where about would your Trust be - that it can be tackled that the Characters can look just as well and fine like in other Engines ? Like - Zero Trust ? Full Trust ? Anything inbetween ?
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  • VhaeyneVhaeyne Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.

    I have honestly been playing Minecraft again since P3 has been a wash. I got to say with the right shaders Minecraft characters end up looking better to me than what AOC has now.
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    This is my personal feedback, shared to help the game thrive in its niche.
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    Aszkalon wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.

    Between Zero for nothing - and Hundred for Everything,

    where about would your Trust be - that it can be tackled that the Characters can look just as well and fine like in other Engines ? Like - Zero Trust ? Full Trust ? Anything inbetween ?

    Just as fine as... what we have right now?
    What we got isn't looking fine by any measure. It's a flickering, buggy mess with performance problems and only rudimentary customisation. You can create better looking characters in UE 2, released in 2002. Of course, you can also create better models in UE5, but I don't believe this team will pull it off. I don't think they even want to have characters look better. They seem to be happy with what they got.
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.

    I have honestly been playing Minecraft again since P3 has been a wash. I got to say with the right shaders Minecraft characters end up looking better to me than what AOC has now.

    I've been playing Turtle WoW for a while now, with the HD patch, and frankly, even the WoW chars look a lot better than Ashes. And I'm not even a fan of that Disney/Pixar look ;) But the actual artistic craftsmanship is just leagues above what we have here.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    I've been playing Turtle WoW for a while now, with the HD patch, and frankly, even the WoW chars look a lot better than Ashes. And I'm not even a fan of that Disney/Pixar look ;) But the actual artistic craftsmanship is just leagues above what we have here.

    This is exactly what i kinda think all the time but never wanted to say since Months and Months and Months on end.

    I am just so immensely annoyed over when i look at Presentations from around 2018 - > or Concept Arts which can be in pretty much ANY monthly Presentation/Video/Stream even right now - then i see always these nice Views and Sights of Characters which look just superior.

    I refuse to believe that everything is supposed to look tinier, uglier, stiff and so on - because it is a "new/better/newer Engine"-kind of, than what was used Years before.

    I also refuse to believe that Sir Steven pours insane Amounts of Money into this Project every single Year, only to then make a Product that will be "so-so" and will not even impress. I can't believe Ashes it's at it's Limit.


    The fact that i wait now until " NOVEMBER " or even later when i was looking forward to "May FIRST/1th" this Year, when it was THIS TIME AROUND "last" Year - is pretty much a Brainfuck i can not really accept.

    What the heck even is this ?? The greatest Labor Pains of ALL TIMES which an MMO ever had ?? I wonder how People must feel who poured Thousands of Dollars or €uros into this (((Braver of Worlds and so on))) and who wait religiously like 2018.

    How many even are still alive ? Cancer is a thing in Reallife. We won't live forever.
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  • RonDog98RonDog98 Member, Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    You know, I might even skip Ashes and play MnM, which has characters that arguably look terrible - but they have a distinct art style and are fine for what they are. Which is something that can't be said about Ashes.

    Ashes is... UE5 slop.

    I have honestly been playing Minecraft again since P3 has been a wash. I got to say with the right shaders Minecraft characters end up looking better to me than what AOC has now.

    I've been playing Turtle WoW for a while now, with the HD patch, and frankly, even the WoW chars look a lot better than Ashes. And I'm not even a fan of that Disney/Pixar look ;) But the actual artistic craftsmanship is just leagues above what we have here.

    Wait is the unreal 5 Turtle wow update out???
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    edited October 31
    RonDog98 wrote: »
    Wait is the unreal 5 Turtle wow update out???
    No, not yet.

    @Aszkalon If we take a look at what Intrepid has achieved so far, how many of the original devs are gone, and how much their vision has shifted; if we look at where this game is going, compared to what it was advertised as during Kickstarter (back then: a dynamic world, where zone levels, monsters and content were depending on the nodes, with certain pvp objectives to drive meaningful conflict and politics. now: a pvp theme park with static zones and no real content, despite the same 3 mobs everywhere, and the pvp being "lawless zones"), I honestly don't believe the game will even see the light of day, but if so, that it'll stay alive for long. It will end up with 1 server with a peak of 200 people online, much like Pantheon, but for murder hobos. What else will these games have in common? Characters that look like the intern did a quick prompt in the OG DALL-E in 2023.

    Since I started this thread (a year ago!), I've pretty much lost hope. Just hanging out here on the off chance that Steven gets his feet back on the ground.

  • ChicagoChicago Member, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    RonDog98 wrote: »
    Wait is the unreal 5 Turtle wow update out???
    No, not yet.

    @Aszkalon If we take a look at what Intrepid has achieved so far, how many of the original devs are gone, and how much their vision has shifted; if we look at where this game is going, compared to what it was advertised as during Kickstarter (back then: a dynamic world, where zone levels, monsters and content were depending on the nodes, with certain pvp objectives to drive meaningful conflict and politics. now: a pvp theme park with static zones and no real content, despite the same 3 mobs everywhere, and the pvp being "lawless zones"), I honestly don't believe the game will even see the light of day, but if so, that it'll stay alive for long. It will end up with 1 server with a peak of 200 people online, much like Pantheon, but for murder hobos. What else will these games have in common? Characters that look like the intern did a quick prompt in the OG DALL-E in 2023.

    Since I started this thread (a year ago!), I've pretty much lost hope. Just hanging out here on the off chance that Steven gets his feet back on the ground.

    Yeah I tend to agree, I know that it's alpha and all that but by this point we should have started seeing non place holder systems coming online, better art design ( everything just looks like it's done with AI, not much point having 2 continents and 18 biomes if they are all the same with the same 4 mob types and AI placement ), the systems we have are nothing like advertised in the " vertical slices "

    Where are the freeholds, the crafting system where different mats change the outcome, the meaningful PvP and pve, the lore, the story arch's, the castles, the different racial node styles. It feels like all we have really done the past year is make the game even less casual and add boring zones with no point to even explore them

    The crate system sucks, there is no end game loop in sight, we are releasing arch types with placeholder skill trees? Honestly no idea what the direction for this game is any ore, hit level 50 and run crates. This game needs a strong player base to survive so unless they release with only one server per region I am concerned for the longevity of this project.
  • AszkalonAszkalon Member, Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    @Aszkalon If we take a look at what Intrepid has achieved so far, how many of the original devs are gone, and how much their vision has shifted; if we look at where this game is going, compared to what it was advertised as during Kickstarter (back then: a dynamic world, where zone levels, monsters and content were depending on the nodes, with certain pvp objectives to drive meaningful conflict and politics. now: a pvp theme park with static zones and no real content, despite the same 3 mobs everywhere, and the pvp being "lawless zones"), I honestly don't believe the game will even see the light of day, but if so, that it'll stay alive for long. It will end up with 1 server with a peak of 200 people online, much like Pantheon, but for murder hobos. What else will these games have in common?

    I needed that positive Comment, Andi. Thanks.

    Yes. It is progressing tripping and stumbling, but it is progressing. 🫡
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