hmm lets see... I sure would like to see some of these
1) Human 2) Beastfolk (customizeble visual variant between cat, dog, wolf, fox, snake and possibly more) 3) Elves 4) Winged Ones (mostly humanoids but with wings) 5) Jumi (Humanoid magical beings that has a gem as their core) (personnal favorite) 6) Plantfolk (kind of like a race of elves in symbiosis with a plant growing on them(plant type would be customizeble) 7) Half-mermaids (Fin ears and sea colored hair but with actual legs instead of a fish tail) 8) Dragonkin (horns, tail and wings, the rest mostly humanoid)
I feel like Dwarfs are kinda rare in MMOs these days and that makes me sad. I like 'em a lot. Please give us Dwarfs and yes, also female ones; i feel like Dwarfs are one of the best races to portrait strong woman. But, the Dwarfs should also have some good humor; make 'em weird in a good way.
[quote quote=2521]I feel like Dwarfs are kinda rare in MMOs these days and that makes me sad. I like ’em a lot. Please give us Dwarfs and yes, also female ones; i feel like Dwarfs are one of the best races to portrait strong woman. But, the Dwarfs should also have some good humor; make ’em weird in a good way.
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This! I need my Dorfs! And please, don't make the female Dwarves into some **** character. I don't mind cute customization, but the over the top Asian MMO **** is a bit too much.
There was this race in Pillars of Eternity. Godlikes. Fire, Moon, Avian, Nature, or Death Godlike. Quite unique, in art if not in concept.
Basically, they are people born from humans who were blessed (or cursed) by the gods and given a physical manifestation of that blessing. Godlikes are asexual.
Now, what's interesting in the race system of Pillars of Eternity, is that there are races, true, but also subraces. What it means is just that a dwarf living on the coast won't be the same as a dwarf living in the moutains. They won't have the same social norms and codes, expectations, or knowledge of the world.
Moutain-dwelling dwarves and forest-loving elves are <em>so</em> 2016... Who we are is not defined by our race, but by our environment and the peers with whom we socialize with during our early years. I thought this knowledge would have been applied to fantasy settings as well as the rest by now. This whole concept of race dictating how a character is going to act just doesn't sit right with me. Although this is great to create unique characters and shake other's expectations.
This is a great idea! I think it'd be cool to see this in game. Like, be able to pick a Human, but what kind of human? I think it would be too much work that wouldn't be appreciated by much to make your sub-race develop over gameplay. Although, it would be very interesting.
[quote quote=2935]There was this race in Pillars of Eternity. Godlikes. Fire, Moon, Avian, Nature, or Death Godlike. Quite unique, in art if not in concept.
Basically, they are people born from humans who were blessed (or cursed) by the gods and given a physical manifestation of that blessing. Godlikes are asexual.
Now, what’s interesting in the race system of Pillars of Eternity, is that there are races, true, but also subraces. What it means is just that a dwarf living on the coast won’t be the same as a dwarf living in the moutains. They won’t have the same social norms and codes, expectations, or knowledge of the world.
Moutain-dwelling dwarves and forest-loving elves are <em>so</em> 2016… Who we are is not defined by our race, but by our environment and the peers with whom we socialize with during our early years. I thought this knowledge would have been applied to fantasy settings as well as the rest by now. This whole concept of race dictating how a character is going to act just doesn’t sit right with me. Although this is great to create unique characters and shake other’s expectations.
Subraces can simply be how you play your character, doesn't have to be a box to check out in-game. It just kills me inside when the dwarf starting city is near a mountain and the elves one is a damn forest.
Reading through this I can't get the idea of spider people out of my head XD Perhaps a combi between a humanoid and the standard "centaur spider", which usually walks on 2 legs but can change as ability. When going full spider mode armor would disappear from legs, so it wouldn't require extra armor designs. Also they could have a relatively simple architecture and lore because they are half spiders XD Got me quite excited actually, will draw some designs when home XD
[quote quote=3129]im a big fan of elves and demi-humans, so i hope some form of these will be ingame <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f642.svg" />
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Im big fan of swords and magic i hope they will be in the game as well
[quote quote=3131]<blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/what-races-will-there-be-do-you-want-to-see/page/4/#post-3129" rel="nofollow">Shunex wrote:</a></div> im a big fan of elves and demi-humans, so i hope some form of these will be ingame <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f642.svg" />
</blockquote> Im big fan of swords and magic i hope they will be in the game as well
Trolls! DAoC had them and I haven't really seen them in other MMOs.
Besides that, i'm almost satisfied with any race. What I rely upon is the variety of customization.
If we only get to pick humans, i'm fine with that. But I want to have a wide variety of customization, so I can make my Norseman with Viking Tats :D
But isn't Dwarfs and Elves already confirmed by a screenshot/concept art? I seem to remember a screenshot of some Elves looking at a Dwarven stronghold. I've tried google my way to it, but can't find it. Might have seen it in a YT-vid.
[quote quote=3109]<a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/users/sappho/" rel="nofollow">@sappho</a> sends us a signed blank cheque….we’ll let you know <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f609.svg" />
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[quote quote=3104]<blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/what-races-will-there-be-do-you-want-to-see/page/3/#post-3096" rel="nofollow">sappho wrote:</a></div> Do you have any idea what kind of money I would pay to play as a proper tiefling
or a disgusting and scummy looking goblin
do you. do you have any idea.
</blockquote> Idk man, I’m starting to get this feeling that it’s a lot… But I’m not sure, you havent completely convinced me yet <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f609.svg" />
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*slides this under the table* how about how
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/sW9vYz1.png" alt="i want to be a gross goblin" />
I agree that I also want different and unique races :D Adding the already named "classic" races like Humans,Dwarfs,Elves I completely agree with @Sappho and want also to play as a Tiefling xD Also I think it would be cool to have some undeads like a skeletons. That would make the coolest Necromancer :D
Ooo! It would be amazing if there was a fairy race xD. But its hit box would be small. The elves race will be what I might be picking but not sure. But still, a fairy race would be amazing!
Every game has some form of Elf, Human, Dwarf or Orc. you can have those 4 and then I'd I say go through the D and D monster manual and get ideas for 3-4 more playable NPC races there.
need a few races to set yourself aprart from the other games. GW2 has the Char, Tieflings are in Neverwinter etc.
I love the idea of more beast type races, but im getting tired of cats lol. I would absolutely play a fox or wolf species as my main character.
maybe a humanoid with animal aesthetics like dog ears, tails, hands and feet. if people don't like the full on beast race. that way its still humanoid with a hint of the wild.
As long as there's something large and burly... Be it animalistic or not. Hands down I'm an Orc person. But Half-Orcs from D&D... Somewhat the Orcs in WoW... Not Orks of LoTR. I don't want to be forced into a 'stupid' character. Just a rough, gruff and generally larger than average race.
That being said, have distinct yet not specifically overbearingly defined races would be nice. I love lore, but I'm not a huge fan of games which close the lore on one specific race. Where this one race, only comes from this one island, and only supports this one specific culture and nothing else. I like some borders to my lore, finding where your character falls within those borders is part of the fun! But don't narrow it so much you -have- to be one specific thing.
I know it has been mentioned, but Dark Elves, and either High Elves or Wood Elves. I always like to see an opposing race lore wise to match up. If there is going to be PVP, I like facing off against my sworn enemy.
We want the choice of race to be meaningful, but I don't like it when players choose a race based solely on its stats. Min/maxing is inevitable but it also has a way souring a game.
Certain stereotypes that most of us know from Tolkien have permeated game design and while on the one hand we like it when done well, on the other hand it's most often not done well. Oh, look: another snotty effete elf. Oh, look: another beer-guzzling dwarf with a Scottish accent. And yet, most everyone loves how Lee Pace played Thranduil and Peter Ustinov played Gimli in the LotR/Hobbit films. I severely disliked "handsome" and thin-nosed Thorin from the Hobbit <del datetime="2017-02-09T13:06:56+00:00">amusement park ride</del> films.
If you stray too far from what people expect and love, it just doesn't work. One of the concept art pieces for AoC looks like... tropical dwarves? Yuck. Please, no. Another game was mentioned earlier, Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, where an image of a merfolk like race was shown. I'm also interested in that game but I don't like the way they're doing halflings and gnomes because they went too far off the mark with them. They would've been better off using unique names because if you say <em>gnome,</em> a certain image comes to mind. Good design exceeds that expectation in a delightful way, but bad design thwarts expectations in a way that leaves people feeling betrayed and disappointed. Who's to say in the end whether Pantheon's design is good or bad, all I know is personally I don't like that they took what they created and called it a gnome. That's not a gnome to me.
If you go back in time and look at folklore regarding elves and such, what you find is that they're all under the faeriefolk umbrella. Nowadays it seems we think of elves and faeries as separate "races," but I think taking elves back to their faerie folkloric roots would be a pretty cool way to reinvigorate a tired trope. Elves don't have to be snotty and effete, why can't they be mischievous and playful (with a cruel and dark sense of humor)? Or make them more beastly, more satyr-like: give them hooves and tails and antlers and strangely dark eyes and leonine noses.
Black Desert Online (the game I'm currently playing) has all kinds of phenomenal animalistic humanoids in it. Otter people, fox people, demibeasts which are as large as humans and have deer-like facial features along with antlers... but you can't play as any of these races. Guild Wars 2 have their Skritt, which are rat-like humanoids. I'd personally love to see something like this excel at stealth/thievery, as opposed to, say, halflings (also I'm not a fan of **** races). Yes, cat people are overdone, and yet it seems like they're <em>still </em>never done <em>well </em>(Bless is looking pretty good for that, though). If you do cat people well, people will like it. I could live with goblins, too, if they looked more like the one from the Styx game rather than WoW.
Multiple human races please. African like and Asian like humans would be nice. They should have their own cities and cultures like the Redguard of Elder Scrolls and the Elonians of Guild Wars or the Erudites of Everquest. They shouldn't just be a skin color choice of human while living in a European styled culture. They can be their own unique cultures like they were in Vanguard Saga of Heroes with their own unique gods and unique magics.
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1) Human
2) Beastfolk (customizeble visual variant between cat, dog, wolf, fox, snake and possibly more)
3) Elves
4) Winged Ones (mostly humanoids but with wings)
5) Jumi (Humanoid magical beings that has a gem as their core) (personnal favorite)
6) Plantfolk (kind of like a race of elves in symbiosis with a plant growing on them(plant type would be customizeble)
7) Half-mermaids (Fin ears and sea colored hair but with actual legs instead of a fish tail)
8) Dragonkin (horns, tail and wings, the rest mostly humanoid)
Please give us Dwarfs and yes, also female ones; i feel like Dwarfs are one of the best races to portrait strong woman.
But, the Dwarfs should also have some good humor; make 'em weird in a good way.
Please give us Dwarfs and yes, also female ones; i feel like Dwarfs are one of the best races to portrait strong woman.
But, the Dwarfs should also have some good humor; make ’em weird in a good way.
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This! I need my Dorfs! And please, don't make the female Dwarves into some **** character. I don't mind cute customization, but the over the top Asian MMO **** is a bit too much.
making morphs such as angels and dragons problably will contradict with the games physics options and intentions
Basically, they are people born from humans who were blessed (or cursed) by the gods and given a physical manifestation of that blessing. Godlikes are asexual.
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/3/34/Fire-godlike-female-portraits.jpg?version=bb81cce086c899196df97cc0b9360260" alt="Fire Godlike" />
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/0/05/Death-godlike-male-portrait.jpg?version=f892dc2491a4bed4ceb5307dc666bdd0" alt="Death Godlike" />
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/6/6b/Moon-godlike-male-portrait.jpg?version=ebcb68ade58b7a9ec71c60b47277b549" alt="Moon Godlike" />
Now, what's interesting in the race system of Pillars of Eternity, is that there are races, true, but also subraces. What it means is just that a dwarf living on the coast won't be the same as a dwarf living in the moutains. They won't have the same social norms and codes, expectations, or knowledge of the world.
Moutain-dwelling dwarves and forest-loving elves are <em>so</em> 2016...
Who we are is not defined by our race, but by our environment and the peers with whom we socialize with during our early years.
I thought this knowledge would have been applied to fantasy settings as well as the rest by now.
This whole concept of race dictating how a character is going to act just doesn't sit right with me. Although this is great to create unique characters and shake other's expectations.
[quote quote=2935]There was this race in Pillars of Eternity. Godlikes. Fire, Moon, Avian, Nature, or Death Godlike. Quite unique, in art if not in concept.
Basically, they are people born from humans who were blessed (or cursed) by the gods and given a physical manifestation of that blessing. Godlikes are asexual.
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/3/34/Fire-godlike-female-portraits.jpg?version=bb81cce086c899196df97cc0b9360260" alt="Fire Godlike" />
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/0/05/Death-godlike-male-portrait.jpg?version=f892dc2491a4bed4ceb5307dc666bdd0" alt="Death Godlike" />
<img src="https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/6/6b/Moon-godlike-male-portrait.jpg?version=ebcb68ade58b7a9ec71c60b47277b549" alt="Moon Godlike" />
Now, what’s interesting in the race system of Pillars of Eternity, is that there are races, true, but also subraces. What it means is just that a dwarf living on the coast won’t be the same as a dwarf living in the moutains. They won’t have the same social norms and codes, expectations, or knowledge of the world.
Moutain-dwelling dwarves and forest-loving elves are <em>so</em> 2016…
Who we are is not defined by our race, but by our environment and the peers with whom we socialize with during our early years.
I thought this knowledge would have been applied to fantasy settings as well as the rest by now.
This whole concept of race dictating how a character is going to act just doesn’t sit right with me. Although this is great to create unique characters and shake other’s expectations.
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Humans
Dwarf
Elvin
Tiefling
Halfling
Gnome
Dark Elves
Half Orc
Satyr
Perhaps a combi between a humanoid and the standard "centaur spider", which usually walks on 2 legs but can change as ability. When going full spider mode armor would disappear from legs, so it wouldn't require extra armor designs.
Also they could have a relatively simple architecture and lore because they are half spiders XD
Got me quite excited actually, will draw some designs when home XD
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/R3e9sbC.jpg" alt="pls" />
or a disgusting and scummy looking goblin
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/TqK0Rfr.png" alt="pls pls" />
do you. do you have any idea.
or a disgusting and scummy looking goblin
do you. do you have any idea.
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Idk man, I'm starting to get this feeling that it's a lot... But I'm not sure, you havent completely convinced me yet ;)
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Im big fan of swords and magic i hope they will be in the game as well
<img src="http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/925/494/218.png_large" alt="" />
im a big fan of elves and demi-humans, so i hope some form of these will be ingame <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f642.svg" />
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Im big fan of swords and magic i hope they will be in the game as well
<img src="http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/925/494/218.png_large" alt="" />
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na there's no magic or swords in this game sorry only fists
DAoC had them and I haven't really seen them in other MMOs.
Besides that, i'm almost satisfied with any race. What I rely upon is the variety of customization.
If we only get to pick humans, i'm fine with that. But I want to have a wide variety of customization, so I can make my Norseman with Viking Tats :D
But isn't Dwarfs and Elves already confirmed by a screenshot/concept art? I seem to remember a screenshot of some Elves looking at a Dwarven stronghold. I've tried google my way to it, but can't find it. Might have seen it in a YT-vid.
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[quote quote=3104]<blockquote><div class="d4p-bbt-quote-title"><a href="https://www.ashesofcreation.com/forums/topic/what-races-will-there-be-do-you-want-to-see/page/3/#post-3096" rel="nofollow">sappho wrote:</a></div>
Do you have any idea what kind of money I would pay to play as a proper tiefling
or a disgusting and scummy looking goblin
do you. do you have any idea.
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Idk man, I’m starting to get this feeling that it’s a lot… But I’m not sure, you havent completely convinced me yet <img alt="?" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2/svg/1f609.svg" />
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*slides this under the table*
how about how
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/sW9vYz1.png" alt="i want to be a gross goblin" />
LMAO. :D
Adding the already named "classic" races like Humans,Dwarfs,Elves I completely agree with @Sappho and want also to play as a Tiefling xD
Also I think it would be cool to have some undeads like a skeletons. That would make the coolest Necromancer :D
Centaur
Satyr
Minotaur
Ettin
Kobold
Homarid
Faerie/Fairy/Brownie
Those are a few off the top of dome.
need a few races to set yourself aprart from the other games. GW2 has the Char, Tieflings are in Neverwinter etc.
maybe a humanoid with animal aesthetics like dog ears, tails, hands and feet. if people don't like the full on beast race. that way its still humanoid with a hint of the wild.
That being said, have distinct yet not specifically overbearingly defined races would be nice. I love lore, but I'm not a huge fan of games which close the lore on one specific race. Where this one race, only comes from this one island, and only supports this one specific culture and nothing else. I like some borders to my lore, finding where your character falls within those borders is part of the fun! But don't narrow it so much you -have- to be one specific thing.
Certain stereotypes that most of us know from Tolkien have permeated game design and while on the one hand we like it when done well, on the other hand it's most often not done well. Oh, look: another snotty effete elf. Oh, look: another beer-guzzling dwarf with a Scottish accent. And yet, most everyone loves how Lee Pace played Thranduil and Peter Ustinov played Gimli in the LotR/Hobbit films. I severely disliked "handsome" and thin-nosed Thorin from the Hobbit <del datetime="2017-02-09T13:06:56+00:00">amusement park ride</del> films.
If you stray too far from what people expect and love, it just doesn't work. One of the concept art pieces for AoC looks like... tropical dwarves? Yuck. Please, no. Another game was mentioned earlier, Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, where an image of a merfolk like race was shown. I'm also interested in that game but I don't like the way they're doing halflings and gnomes because they went too far off the mark with them. They would've been better off using unique names because if you say <em>gnome,</em> a certain image comes to mind. Good design exceeds that expectation in a delightful way, but bad design thwarts expectations in a way that leaves people feeling betrayed and disappointed. Who's to say in the end whether Pantheon's design is good or bad, all I know is personally I don't like that they took what they created and called it a gnome. That's not a gnome to me.
If you go back in time and look at folklore regarding elves and such, what you find is that they're all under the faeriefolk umbrella. Nowadays it seems we think of elves and faeries as separate "races," but I think taking elves back to their faerie folkloric roots would be a pretty cool way to reinvigorate a tired trope. Elves don't have to be snotty and effete, why can't they be mischievous and playful (with a cruel and dark sense of humor)? Or make them more beastly, more satyr-like: give them hooves and tails and antlers and strangely dark eyes and leonine noses.
Black Desert Online (the game I'm currently playing) has all kinds of phenomenal animalistic humanoids in it. Otter people, fox people, demibeasts which are as large as humans and have deer-like facial features along with antlers... but you can't play as any of these races. Guild Wars 2 have their Skritt, which are rat-like humanoids. I'd personally love to see something like this excel at stealth/thievery, as opposed to, say, halflings (also I'm not a fan of **** races). Yes, cat people are overdone, and yet it seems like they're <em>still </em>never done <em>well </em>(Bless is looking pretty good for that, though). If you do cat people well, people will like it. I could live with goblins, too, if they looked more like the one from the Styx game rather than WoW.