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Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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I'd like to not feel as I do now, that I can't answer anywhere because of anxiety that he's going to be making prodding comment at me again.
So yeah, I'd like to resolve it, however it's in his hands not mine.
I honestly have no idea what he's trying to convey when he posted that last
comment.... are you wanting to sort it out? Are you wanting to discuss things or just ignore each other? I don't understand can you please explain?
As to the roleplay community not being directly affected by dividing up groups, no I agree, they personally won't likely be harmed they'll continue on as normal, only it does increase misunderstanding of roleplay to those outside of the community, making ganking and interrupting rp much more acceptable.... 'mahahahah, you were theatre rping' etc
The damage is done externally looking in on this kind of pidgeonholing, and that I'm afraid is a highly emotive issue for me that I can't let lie, as it often is the first step in the chain towards bullying.
Meh, It's important to me, I believe that there should be acceptance of all, however who knows where this will end.
Guess running away and ignoring him are the way to go.
*Calms down and goes to find a cup of tea*
You never know, there may be a cordial solution
OBJECTIVI-SOMETHING HELP UNDERSTAND HAPPENING.
SPRINKLE OPINION ON TOP.
GOOD NON TOXIC DISH YES.
Seriously, though, relative anonimity + internet echo chamber + hurt feelings + polarization being totally acceptable nowadays (look at the problems the US has with 'compromise' as a simple example), will always lead to people just spewing garbage about 'others'.
Whether the others are people they disagree with, people with an unpopular opinion, or people that are critical for good reason but run into fanbois, it's the new way of doing things it appears.
A look at Steam and Youtube is all you need to see how bad it has gotten.
Man that is deep. I had to stop and think about that. You could apply that to a lot in life. I'm going to use this example at some point to my little nephews. Those are some powerful words, so thank you.
I'd like to offer a different perspective that some may not have felt. I am a developer in real life. I do not work in the game industry, but there is an ongoing joke/truth that I feel that most developer feel often. Users are never happy, and think these "easy fixes" can be done in a blink of an eye.
There are a lot of decision made to push out a piece of software. When a "bad update" is released it could have been any number of reasons. The developer could have been overruled by a business decision, maybe the best way was not cost efficient, or maybe they simply thought this was the best option and got it wrong.
We are constantly told not to read to much into negative feedback. Take it with a grain of salt and try to improve the product, but I can tell you it can be hard coding when you feel like the customer has little faith in your work.
So I'd like to say this to everyone here. Invest in the developers, artists, community managers, and even their muffin man. Because it is them that will create the world we want to dive into.
I have attempted everything, I have spent hours trying to resolve my toxicity issue.
That might not sound like much, but it's the reason I haven't been as active here.
Sending a simple a4 length missive takes me about three hours now a days, and that is basically all of my usable time for that day.
So actually I have been working seriously hard to negotiate any form of understanding or compromise.
I changed my communication style, offered up my own self critisism, and made serious efforts to offer olive branches and work towards any form of agreement, the following is a segment of a message I sent out in my efforts:
Is it possible for both of us to put aside all assumptions of styles of roleplay other than our own? And accept that views may be flawed (on both sides)
To both acknowledge that whilst we don't enjoy playing in other sites than our own, we both intend to get on with opposite styles in game, even if getting on is ignoring or pretending each other is loopy?
And if we can do that, is there not any way that we can just get on trying to work out the best way to unite all different rp styles and ways that might result in all styles getting the best possible experiences out of this game?
Everyone here is correct, ignoring and pretending that a troll doesn't exist is the only way forward from here.
Now for my real reply to this rather than my normal rambling:
I didn't read the entirety of this because scrolling through 5 pages of what I can only assume dropped partially into what it's talking about in the first place. @Mykkala One for the last note here as well (Mainly cause your right there as I type and I can't ignore your words XD) it's not about the disagreement when it comes to toxicity it's about how things are said/worded.
You can ask a lot of people on this forums I typically have a disagreement with something about nearly every serious thread. However I rarely end up in some argument that garners aggression and disrespectful tones. At least I don't think I do please correct me if I'm wrong.
Other than that, well toxic+trolls will happen stopping it entirely is impractical. Containing it however is a viable option if there are a significant number of other people who determine "That ones a troll" Then why not ignore their posts? I know that's hard for some people and others might not see that person as a troll but unless your a mod then isn't much you can do about it in the first place besides chill and carry on.
And what was the other one... inspired?
And she's just mad that I refuse to agree with her perspective.
She finds my desire to label the different styles of RP to be inherently negative; while I view that as neutral.
We disagree. And that is OK.
She gets to feel however she wishes to feel about that.
I wish her joy and happiness regardless.
PS It's pretty easy for an Elf to ignore a dwarf. Just don't look down
I'm just saying that people disagreeing with each other is OK.
Ignore button is great.
I do like making posting in the forums available only to subscribers after launch.
Tight moderation with 'time-outs' and eventually permanent bans are in order BUT that takes a lot of time, effort, and manpower.
Tight moderation can lead to OVER moderation which is no fun either.
Sometime a good, old fashioned IGNORE button is the best solution.
1 Those who can count
2.Those who can't
I wish you all the best, but would you kindly stop now?
I'm sure the thread will get locked at some point.
I am NOT mad because you disagree with me.
I am mad because I invested serious time and effort in an attempt to resolve our differences, yet met with no attempts to compromise, no attempts to recognise any major issues, no attempts to move forward.
You came across as just wanting to argue for arguments sake. If you really wanted to resolve it, we would have.
Now I warned you before, before I made an effort to resolve this that if you were to drag me into a thread or speak for me I would flag it.
I personally feel that it's a shame.
P.s. if you look back at all my posts on this thread, I was very careful in not mentioning (in the first instance s) who it was that I had a beef with.
I felt that talking in the vague way would be less toxic for the community as a whole.
And, on which one of us has been rude and toxic.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯