The problem with having “Tank” as a class name

Hello all, I believe this discussion may have come up before, but I really would like Steven and friends to reconsider the name “Tank”. Overall, they have done a good job at naming the other classes and subclasses, but they ruin the immersion of the game by using the class name “tank”. Tank was a code name given to military vehicles being created in 1915. It has been a slang term for classes and archetypes in many video games given to the role that is used to absorb/mitigate or “tank” damage. Having a class name feels very uncharacteristic compared to the other class names. It’s like naming your cat “Cat”. It’s cute and punny, but is that what they really want for their game? What class do you play? Oh, I play a tank! Yea, but like what class? TANK!! *insert meme of a tank with a face on it... drooling*

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Sholer

Karthos wrote: »

Sholer wrote: »

Karthos wrote: »

Sholer is a horrible name, you need to change it.

It's just not as good as something like Karthos, or even Kartholer

This is an issue that needs to be dealt with immediately..

lol Why are you so narcissistic and toxic?

haha.

I just reversed your argument and showed you how it is from the other side.

So you're actually making a judgment on yourself and your post.

Sounds like you have some thinking to do.

No you not, because I have a point and it is tank is not a good name for a fantasy class.

You are just talking about likes about names, and this thread is not just about "likes about names" is about tank is a name for a rol, not a fantasy class.

Maciej

Noaani wrote: »

Tank as a class name is perfect fine, if we are given an in game reason as to where the name came from. This need be nothing more than someone thousands of years earlier looking at someone in full plate armor and commenting that they look like a metal water tank, and that name just sticking.

Are you still arguing that the German localization should use Behälter instead of Panzer?

Songcaller

Maciej wrote: »

Are you still arguing that the German localization should use Behälter instead of Panzer?

I'd prefer the German localization to use 'King Tiger'

xydrassial

Hmm maybe change it to Meat Shield ?

Sholer

Swipar wrote: »

Hmm maybe change it to Meat Shield ?

Well if we do that we are going to be in the same problem haha.

ariatras

The only acceptable name would be Masochist ;D

But really, name's fine.

Asgerr

I wish "not this shit again" were a flag option on the forums

Noaani

Maciej wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Tank as a class name is perfect fine, if we are given an in game reason as to where the name came from. This need be nothing more than someone thousands of years earlier looking at someone in full plate armor and commenting that they look like a metal water tank, and that name just sticking.

Are you still arguing that the German localization should use Behälter instead of Panzer?

I never argued that point either way. That is something a native German speaker should consider, not me.

Maciej

Noaani wrote: »

Maciej wrote: »

Noaani wrote: »

Tank as a class name is perfect fine, if we are given an in game reason as to where the name came from. This need be nothing more than someone thousands of years earlier looking at someone in full plate armor and commenting that they look like a metal water tank, and that name just sticking.

Are you still arguing that the German localization should use Behälter instead of Panzer?

I never argued that point either way. That is something a native German speaker should consider, not me.

Yes you did:

With this point, you are still making the assumption that the class is named after the vehicle, which is exactly what I am saying is not an assumption that should be made.

This point is only valid if the localized version of the tank class in this game uses the word from the associated language for the vehicle.

I somehow doubt they will do that though. It is far more likely they will either not translate it at all, or will use the language appropriate word for the liquid storage vessel.

Jamation

Howdy folks, just wanted to direct everyone's attentions to past threads that discuss this same topic, such as :
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/45621/the-problem-with-having-tank-as-a-class-name/p1

and:
https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/224576#Comment_224576

I understand that this is a passionate subject for many people, but there are plenty of threads about this exact subject already, some with posts from less than a month ago. I don't think creating multiple threads on the same topic will be productive for discussion purposes.

daveywavey

FFS. The fact you've put "Yes, again" shows that you know you're just trolling, now.

This one's over. You've lost.

Leave it be.

Sholer

daveywavey wrote: »

FFS. The fact you've put "Yes, again" shows that you know you're just trolling, now.

This one's over. You've lost.

Leave it be.

wait what? Why would I be trolling?

Sathrago

Sholer wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

FFS. The fact you've put "Yes, again" shows that you know you're just trolling, now.

This one's over. You've lost.

Leave it be.

wait what? Why would I be trolling?

Because you could have continued the other threads on this topic instead of starting your own.

Sholer

Sathrago wrote: »

Sholer wrote: »

daveywavey wrote: »

FFS. The fact you've put "Yes, again" shows that you know you're just trolling, now.

This one's over. You've lost.

Leave it be.

wait what? Why would I be trolling?

Because you could have continued the other threads on this topic instead of starting your own.

Well that's true but I didn't start this new thread for trolling, just did it because I thought is bad reviving old posts.

Vhaeyne

Every thread like this makes me like the name tank more and more.
At this point I would be sad to see it changed.

daveywavey

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Every thread like this makes me like the name tank more and more.
At this point I would be sad to see it changed.

You should make a Tank and call him "Tank". Then he'll always be a Tank!

Sathrago

daveywavey wrote: »

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Every thread like this makes me like the name tank more and more.
At this point I would be sad to see it changed.

You should make a Tank and call him "Tank". Then he'll always be a Tank!

Tanky McTank-Face and his 2h shield that has TANK painted on the front of it.

Frostshot1

Tank is a modern word. And I do agree that it is probably not the best one that could have been picked to represent the back bone of most raiding guilds. It is more like slang to be honest.

Many of the most obvious names for the class are already taken. But it could be something like, Shield bearer, Protector, Bulwark as others have mentioned, Defender. Just to name a few.

Sathrago

Frostshot wrote: »

Tank is a modern word. And I do agree that it is probably not the best one that could have been picked to represent the back bone of most raiding guilds. It is more like slang to be honest.

Many of the most obvious names for the class are already taken. But it could be something like, Shield bearer, Protector, Bulwark as others have mentioned, Defender. Just to name a few.

cant use shield bearer not all tanks are sword and board tanks. Protector isn't a broad enough description because many tanks will be about sole survival rather than reducing damage to party members. Bulwark sounds straight up weirder than any other suggestion I have ever heard for the Tank name. It's clunky and it does not fit the role of a general term you would use for tanks in any form of speech. Be it game terms or otherwise.

The fundamental issue is that the classes in the game are built out of combining a primary role and secondary role, evolving into a unique class that focuses on the primary role but without the restrictions of it already being apart of a singular "class". This is a bit hard to explain well so forgive me if it is confusing. Basically because these archetypes are used to combine into a class, there is no other really good way to name the Tank archetype without it sounding off or forced.

bloodprophet

Vhaeyne wrote: »

Every thread like this makes me like the name tank more and more.
At this point I would be sad to see it changed.

Agreed.
I think breaking tradition is best part of the name.

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