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Ofc I dont support changing the primary class of the character. Thats just not going to happen in any worthwhile game period.
Ah, that sounds alright, but I'm personally not a fan. "Meta-bullying" is just metagaming to harass a player. So, if they implement "family" names like they have in BDO, which is an account name, people can consistently find you, no matter what character you're on.
Ha, he can try, doubt it'll happen. The planned class system is something I genuinely really like.
I'll throw in a nod to that.
I certainly hope they keep the system as-is, as it seems interesting and unique.. am certainly no fan of the final fantasy version of every character is every class.
Actually I'm just not about to debate with a person who is spewing hate and toxicity because he thinks that its entertainment. I'm here to have a constructive conversation and try to promote an idea that I'm passionate about. The fact that the only rebuke is to name call and insult me as a person means that you aren't a part of this conversation. I'm not here to respond to mean nasty trolls because they don't argue with logic. They are just here to be pointlessly evil.
Alright now onto the interesting part of your comment. My requests are not contradictory in the slightest. The fact that you want to dictate to me the rules of role playing and presume to tell me what is or isn't role playing is the just absolutely the most delightfully desperate argument of all time. Hey guys did you hear, as a role player you are not allowed to role play arrogance, pride, success, elitism over filthy peasants or anything else that makes roleplaying the most fun thing of all time. You are not allowed to role playing an immortal shape shifter who walks through races and worlds seeking out conquest and challenges to add to his legacy of terror spread across centuries and worlds. Did you hear guys, Zeric says NO!! And if you disagree with him he will slander you, call you names, try to make up any nonsense he can think of to try to tear you down because his tiny mind has absolutely no chance at winning an argument using facts or ideas so instead he will venture into the abstract where he thinks he is safe and that his meager intellect can dare stand against the indomitable might of High Warlord Vashen. Foolish mortal. I will crush you like the scum you are and smear yiou beneath my boot heel just like the legions of peasants who has dared to stand before my invincible might. lol....puny insect dares to match his tiny little brain against the wits of a god. I look forward to laying waste to your puny joke of a guild should you dare step foot in my world *laughs to himself with mocking pride as he pantomimes dropping the mic*
You need to go read the post again. All of your fears are non issues. My system would have zero effect on people who want to play alts. Everything you are scared of I already talked about in the main post. Also, players will 100% be asked to pick certain classes for certain types of content and they will be told how to skill/slot/spend and what mindless rotations to use with the current system that exists right now. The big no from you needs to be completely reworked because everything you are arguing is basically you proving my points and not realizing it. Also....drastically change the way the game and mmo works? Really? REALLY?? Come on man, are you just trolling LOL
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Do what you want within the game’s constraints.
Note to self - will ask friends with KS packages who get to reserve their names first to reserve the name Vash. Since some of them are no longer planning on playing, I don't think this will be too much of a problem.
And I think that the time I spend crafting my reputation and building relationships and making friends shouldn't be hindered by the fact that I want to play every class, every race and every profession in the game which I am going to do whether my idea gets implemented or not. The only problem here is that you want to rob me of my name which honestly the most nonsense argument ever. There is nothing you can say that will justify not allowing me to keep my name which by the way I am paying top dollar to reserve. Its just a name. It means nothing to you and everything to me. Its not hurting anyone so there is literally nothing you can say to argue it away from me unless you are just trying to troll.
Now as to the content creator arguments you are inadvertently proving my point. These guys were known for only one thing because their name was tied to only one thing. Any time they tried to play an alt it felt pointless because they lost the insane amount of fame and renown that was tied to that name and even though I guarantee you they played and wanted to play other characters they had no choice but to keep coming back to the name they were known for because the name is more important then anything. Their careers are tied to their names. The fact is that those players were brilliant players at many classes and every one of them should have been given the chance to keep their name. Even if they vastly preferred another character they are screwed and have no choice but to stick with the name they are famous for. If I want to be a no life loser and play all day every day because I love this game so much why should anyone argue to steal my name. It makes no sense. If I became famous enough that you knew my name does it really matter what class I am. If you know my name as a threat or is a treasured ally can you really argue that I shouldn't be allowed to have that recognizable name. If Asmongold was travelling on his maxed out rogue and he wanted to have his name proudly displayed would you really want to not know its him as he slaughters you? Because I'd want to know it was him. And I'd want my victims to know it was me if I was him. At the very least it should be a choice that he's allowed to make for himself. You have to be lying to yourself to say otherwise. His name is his career, livelihood. And just to put one final nail into this stupid coffin of ridiculous arguments the character class is clearly shown on your enemy. If Asmond gold was famous for his warrior and you fought his rogue you'd know what to expect from him as a rogue just as much as if he had some name that you didn't recognize. In fact, you'd respect him more and possibly make a wise choice because the name recognition and reputation alone is enough to give pause.....WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT. That is the very argument for trying famous names to classes. You see a name and you are like...woah be careful of that dude. He's a notoriously nasty skilled player and maybe we don't want to die today. Names are what matters, not the class they are tied to. A name is literally everything. If you hear my name and you hear Pewdiepie who are you going to respect more. Obviously Pewds because he's a boss. Don't hide your most famous players behind stupid alt names UNLESS THEY WANT TO HIDE
That would be amazing and I would have no problem with that. At the end of the day my name is the only thing I really care about. I live for connection and at the end of the day without that connection to people I wouldn't care about games at all
Because there are no duplicate names. That's the whole point. If you have the name Sylvanar then I have to find a different name that hasn't been taken
HAR!!! Foolish child. For one claiming to be far more entertaining then I you curl up like a defeated pathetic childling and hum idle meaningless threats when you are completely obliterated in a contest of wits. The name I pick in these lands does not matter. It only matters that whatever name I choose I get to keep and wield it always like a sword no matter what face I travel these lands with. So that every time you are lying dead at my feet you will always know the name of your better. The trolls were much more competent in the Emerald Dream *scoffs triumphantly and walk away with a smug grin*
You need to either stop editing quotes, or learn what you are doing.
Being limited would be a hindrance.
You can have all classes on one account. What you can’t and shouldn’t be able to do is have every class, every profession, and every religion maxed on one character, which is what OP is asking for because they’re a streamer and for some reason they’re under the impression that means they are incapable of being recognized on more than one character.
But, you can...?
No, you are not, and I have thoroughly explained, why/how, you are not doing so in my previous posts, as have others. Also, every single one of your own posts is evidence of how/why you are doing no such thing. You are doing exactly what I have already explained in my first post.
And the amount of projection in this latest reply though....just wow. Along with all the misdirection......your years of practice is really showing. Congratulations on such a skillful display.
Also, no, monologuing is not is not roleplaying.
That's great, I don't if there are slot limits for the characters (64 total classes combinations).
I was simply stating the bare minimum required IMHO.
I believe having "one job" per character is better from the point of view of its identity.
Well what you want and what you're gonna get are two totally separate things. One of the Mods, very early in this thread to be exact, already stated a family name was about as close as you are going to get.
Another option would be to use the same name but have a single extra letter on the end. Ex TeamvashB, TeamvashS, etc. That way it's like 90% the same.
1) There is a difference between getting an achievement as one class verses getting the same achievement as another.
2) There is a difference between getting an achievement at one gear level for one class verses representing have the achievement at a different gear level as a different class.
This first two points are similar but slightly different. The easiest example I have is the mage tower challenges from WoW-Legion. Some of those challenges were drastically harder for some specs than others. Representing an achievement with a certain time stamp for a certain role can carry for more respect. (i.e. Did you accomplish it the first week or 2 patches later when it was trivialized by gear or nerfed in difficulty.)
3) You argue the true hardcore want this. I argue the true hardcore are indifferent. They are used to having plenty of alts for all the same reasons.
4)There is more to identity than a name. Class and spec carry just has much weight. While many top tier players are quite good at many classes, most are known for being the God of one. Your design of class fluidity erodes that piece of identity.
5) If your reputation is as strong as you imply it is, your adoring fans will surely learn your alts names ;P Just think how special they'll feel recognizing you on all of them. You can have pop quizzes like "What's my warriors name?" and give out gold stars.
6) With 64 Class/Sub-Class Combos, setting up achievements per class would be a bit tedious
7) I got a bit lost on how you tried to connect class knowledge with singular name. It sounds more like you want your name to get you the invite than your merit. I don't think highly skilled players have ever had to worry about getting invited to content. I would caution that egocentric players may not get invited, regardless of performance, particularly in a community driven game like how AoC is being positioned.
8) The vast majority of your examples are equally solved by logging onto an alt. "Had a bad time in a dungeon, log into an alt and grind your face off." I'm not seeing where there is a limit placed upon the player-base of hardcore players.
@TeamVASH what you are suggesting is simply not going to happen.
This is the best solution to your query. It is pretty easy to implement too but I doubt if even this would be done. OR introduction of family name which again is doubtful. What is even the point of this thread anymore?
How can you be against this really?
It is a horrible idea for an MMO. Good for a single player game.
I didn't want this to go back to being an active thread.
Indeed.
Essentially, the OP wanted Intrepid to put his ego before good game design.
Not surprisingly, he was called out on it.
I don't want it to be like the garrisons in WoW where you can just do everything yourself and you just stick to yourself.