Seeing as the person who started this thread is a content creator and is looking for a cop out for putting in the effort and is just trying to introduce an abusive element. So that is a different matter altogether.
Ofc I dont support changing the primary class of the character. Thats just not going to happen in any worthwhile game period.
I do agree with you that, Name is very important in MMO.
But wouldn't the better solution to this would be that an account can have multiple characters with same name. That a name is not unique to a character but an account. That way you want to play another class? Login from your alt which has the same NAME!!!
How would you differentiate my character named Sylvanar with your character, Sylvanar? Any other form of account bound identifier promotes meta-bullying which isn't something I think people would appreciate.
Names would be "Account bound". I have my 'Sylvanar' rogue lets say and I make a mage in the same account then I should be able to name that mage as 'Sylvanar' too. As the name would be account bound to my account, you wont be able to use this name. Ofc I would have to do everything in the mage character starting from level 1. I dunno what meta-bullying is.
Ah, that sounds alright, but I'm personally not a fan. "Meta-bullying" is just metagaming to harass a player. So, if they implement "family" names like they have in BDO, which is an account name, people can consistently find you, no matter what character you're on.
Seeing as the person who started this thread is a content creator and is looking for a cop out for putting in the effort and is just trying to introduce an abusive element. So that is a different matter altogether.
Ofc I dont support changing the primary class of the character. Thats just not going to happen in any worthwhile game period.
Ha, he can try, doubt it'll happen. The planned class system is something I genuinely really like.
I do agree with you that, Name is very important in MMO.
But wouldn't the better solution to this would be that an account can have multiple characters with same name. That a name is not unique to a character but an account. That way you want to play another class? Login from your alt which has the same NAME!!!
How would you differentiate my character named Sylvanar with your character, Sylvanar? Any other form of account bound identifier promotes meta-bullying which isn't something I think people would appreciate.
Names would be "Account bound". I have my 'Sylvanar' rogue lets say and I make a mage in the same account then I should be able to name that mage as 'Sylvanar' too. As the name would be account bound to my account, you wont be able to use this name. Ofc I would have to do everything in the mage character starting from level 1. I dunno what meta-bullying is.
Ah, that sounds alright, but I'm personally not a fan. "Meta-bullying" is just metagaming to harass a player. So, if they implement "family" names like they have in BDO, which is an account name, people can consistently find you, no matter what character you're on.
Seeing as the person who started this thread is a content creator and is looking for a cop out for putting in the effort and is just trying to introduce an abusive element. So that is a different matter altogether.
Ofc I dont support changing the primary class of the character. Thats just not going to happen in any worthwhile game period.
Ha, he can try, doubt it'll happen. The planned class system is something I genuinely really like.
I'll throw in a nod to that.
I certainly hope they keep the system as-is, as it seems interesting and unique.. am certainly no fan of the final fantasy version of every character is every class.
siiiiiiiigh
Strawman, Ad hominem, complete avoidance to any points made, and complete dismissal of the people making the points. And no, adding a smiley face doesn't make your post more charming or friendly. It makes you look pretentious. I don't think you could get more pretentious, at this point, even if you actively tried.
You don't even realize that you own demands are contradictory.
"Roleplay has been a massive part of my life and my name is what I want."
"Because I don't want to segregate my accomplishments."
What you are doing is not ROLEplaying, but ROLLplaying. Everything you have said in this thread, proves it more, and more. You don't want "accomplishments," you want bragging rights. You want to lord your "elitism" over the "peasants." And you want them to know it was VASH that did it.
I am waiting in, eager anticipation, for you next set of strawmen and ad hominems.
Good day.
Actually I'm just not about to debate with a person who is spewing hate and toxicity because he thinks that its entertainment. I'm here to have a constructive conversation and try to promote an idea that I'm passionate about. The fact that the only rebuke is to name call and insult me as a person means that you aren't a part of this conversation. I'm not here to respond to mean nasty trolls because they don't argue with logic. They are just here to be pointlessly evil.
Alright now onto the interesting part of your comment. My requests are not contradictory in the slightest. The fact that you want to dictate to me the rules of role playing and presume to tell me what is or isn't role playing is the just absolutely the most delightfully desperate argument of all time. Hey guys did you hear, as a role player you are not allowed to role play arrogance, pride, success, elitism over filthy peasants or anything else that makes roleplaying the most fun thing of all time. You are not allowed to role playing an immortal shape shifter who walks through races and worlds seeking out conquest and challenges to add to his legacy of terror spread across centuries and worlds. Did you hear guys, Zeric says NO!! And if you disagree with him he will slander you, call you names, try to make up any nonsense he can think of to try to tear you down because his tiny mind has absolutely no chance at winning an argument using facts or ideas so instead he will venture into the abstract where he thinks he is safe and that his meager intellect can dare stand against the indomitable might of High Warlord Vashen. Foolish mortal. I will crush you like the scum you are and smear yiou beneath my boot heel just like the legions of peasants who has dared to stand before my invincible might. lol....puny insect dares to match his tiny little brain against the wits of a god. I look forward to laying waste to your puny joke of a guild should you dare step foot in my world *laughs to himself with mocking pride as he pantomimes dropping the mic*
So you want to master all classes and professions on one character simply for the reputation? It's so silly..
I make alts because I envision my Tank characters background different from my Clerics. Hardcore players will be just fine, it only affects people who want to be known as the guy who never logs off.
Why on earth would you care what makes me happy if I'm not hurting anyone? That is a little bit hurtful and very unhelpful to this conversation. My name and reputation matters very much to me in game as in life. It just so happens that I am quite happily obsessive with everything I do and I want a game that allows me endless depth to explore and master. A name matters and I am certainly not the only person that would like to feel acknowledged for their accomplishments. Everyone does whether it be at work, in games, by friends or by family. I feel the drive to be thought well of so be it success or failure it is drives me to keep growing as a person and always do my best the best that I can be and to be known as a good person.
If you want to make an alt then by all means alt to your hearts content. I accept and embrace your vision for your characters. Please do me the same courtesy
that hypocritical and narrowminded, you ARE hurting altoholics with this system. i dont want my tank to look skinny like my mage or my amge to look bulky like my tank. in addition to that theres enough people that hate looking at the same character all the time so they use alts even for the same class simply for variation of onscreen pixels. also your system would make specialising in classes useless regardless of skill, the whole playerbase would just be a blur of classes with no distinction. players would be asked to pick certain classes for certain types of content and they would be told how to skill slot/spend and what mindless rotations to use.
A BIG NO!! from me, however i dont think it would hurt if they make you pick a last name for all your characters so youre still recognisable. but what you want is completely drastically change the way this game and an mmo works to suit your own hardcore needs. this isnt a shooter where you just switch classes in a second with barely any investment or knowledge.
You need to go read the post again. All of your fears are non issues. My system would have zero effect on people who want to play alts. Everything you are scared of I already talked about in the main post. Also, players will 100% be asked to pick certain classes for certain types of content and they will be told how to skill/slot/spend and what mindless rotations to use with the current system that exists right now. The big no from you needs to be completely reworked because everything you are arguing is basically you proving my points and not realizing it. Also....drastically change the way the game and mmo works? Really? REALLY?? Come on man, are you just trolling LOL
I understand what you're saying, but no. Nor do I want some universal identifier like a "family" name, such as in BDO.
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Note to self - will ask friends with KS packages who get to reserve their names first to reserve the name Vash. Since some of them are no longer planning on playing, I don't think this will be too much of a problem.
There have been several posts like this, and I think they're all a little bit selfish. There's inherent friction that comes from alts. Some people like it and others like OP have zero tolerance for it. Sometimes that friction can be lessened through things like a surname system that links all of your characters together.
But I think forcing people to commit to a decision from minute zero makes that decision a lot more important. The decision of class forms much of your character, and I shouldn't have the ability to change it on a whim.
I always hate to bring in WoW anecdotes but the game and community is massive so it's hard not to-- WoW has very little connection between alts, and you cannot switch your class at a whim. You can see the effect of this in its creator community, which you seem to be very concerned about. When you think about Asmongold and WoW, you think about how diehard he is for his warrior. McConnelRet's entire brand is Retribution Paladin, as is Esfand's. Venruki is a mage, and Reckful was insane with his rogue. For me-- I'll always be a rogue and I take a good amount of pride in my fluency with every random ability that they have.
That amount of diehard class loyalty and consistency is more valuable for the game's fun and longevity than some vague notion of completionism or username consistency will ever be.
And I think that the time I spend crafting my reputation and building relationships and making friends shouldn't be hindered by the fact that I want to play every class, every race and every profession in the game which I am going to do whether my idea gets implemented or not. The only problem here is that you want to rob me of my name which honestly the most nonsense argument ever. There is nothing you can say that will justify not allowing me to keep my name which by the way I am paying top dollar to reserve. Its just a name. It means nothing to you and everything to me. Its not hurting anyone so there is literally nothing you can say to argue it away from me unless you are just trying to troll.
Now as to the content creator arguments you are inadvertently proving my point. These guys were known for only one thing because their name was tied to only one thing. Any time they tried to play an alt it felt pointless because they lost the insane amount of fame and renown that was tied to that name and even though I guarantee you they played and wanted to play other characters they had no choice but to keep coming back to the name they were known for because the name is more important then anything. Their careers are tied to their names. The fact is that those players were brilliant players at many classes and every one of them should have been given the chance to keep their name. Even if they vastly preferred another character they are screwed and have no choice but to stick with the name they are famous for. If I want to be a no life loser and play all day every day because I love this game so much why should anyone argue to steal my name. It makes no sense. If I became famous enough that you knew my name does it really matter what class I am. If you know my name as a threat or is a treasured ally can you really argue that I shouldn't be allowed to have that recognizable name. If Asmongold was travelling on his maxed out rogue and he wanted to have his name proudly displayed would you really want to not know its him as he slaughters you? Because I'd want to know it was him. And I'd want my victims to know it was me if I was him. At the very least it should be a choice that he's allowed to make for himself. You have to be lying to yourself to say otherwise. His name is his career, livelihood. And just to put one final nail into this stupid coffin of ridiculous arguments the character class is clearly shown on your enemy. If Asmond gold was famous for his warrior and you fought his rogue you'd know what to expect from him as a rogue just as much as if he had some name that you didn't recognize. In fact, you'd respect him more and possibly make a wise choice because the name recognition and reputation alone is enough to give pause.....WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT. That is the very argument for trying famous names to classes. You see a name and you are like...woah be careful of that dude. He's a notoriously nasty skilled player and maybe we don't want to die today. Names are what matters, not the class they are tied to. A name is literally everything. If you hear my name and you hear Pewdiepie who are you going to respect more. Obviously Pewds because he's a boss. Don't hide your most famous players behind stupid alt names UNLESS THEY WANT TO HIDE
I do agree with you that, Name is very important in MMO.
But wouldn't the better solution to this would be that an account can have multiple characters with same name. That a name is not unique to a character but an account. That way you want to play another class? Login from your alt which has the same NAME!!!
That would be amazing and I would have no problem with that. At the end of the day my name is the only thing I really care about. I live for connection and at the end of the day without that connection to people I wouldn't care about games at all
I do agree with you that, Name is very important in MMO.
But wouldn't the better solution to this would be that an account can have multiple characters with same name. That a name is not unique to a character but an account. That way you want to play another class? Login from your alt which has the same NAME!!!
How would you differentiate my character named Sylvanar with your character, Sylvanar? Any other form of account bound identifier promotes meta-bullying which isn't something I think people would appreciate.
Because there are no duplicate names. That's the whole point. If you have the name Sylvanar then I have to find a different name that hasn't been taken
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Note to self - will ask friends with KS packages who get to reserve their names first to reserve the name Vash. Since some of them are no longer planning on playing, I don't think this will be too much of a problem.
HAR!!! Foolish child. For one claiming to be far more entertaining then I you curl up like a defeated pathetic childling and hum idle meaningless threats when you are completely obliterated in a contest of wits. The name I pick in these lands does not matter. It only matters that whatever name I choose I get to keep and wield it always like a sword no matter what face I travel these lands with. So that every time you are lying dead at my feet you will always know the name of your better. The trolls were much more competent in the Emerald Dream *scoffs triumphantly and walk away with a smug grin*
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Note to self - will ask friends with KS packages who get to reserve their names first to reserve the name Vash. Since some of them are no longer planning on playing, I don't think this will be too much of a problem.
HAR!!! Foolish child. For one claiming to be far more entertaining then I you curl up like a defeated pathetic childling and hum idle meaningless threats when you are completely obliterated in a contest of wits. The name I pick in these lands does not matter. It only matters that whatever name I choose I get to keep and wield it always like a sword no matter what face I travel these lands with. So that every time you are lying dead at my feet you will always know the name of your better. The trolls were much more competent in the Emerald Dream *scoffs triumphantly and walk away with a smug grin*
You need to either stop editing quotes, or learn what you are doing.
I want to be able to try all classes on a single account.
Being limited would be a hindrance.
You can have all classes on one account. What you can’t and shouldn’t be able to do is have every class, every profession, and every religion maxed on one character, which is what OP is asking for because they’re a streamer and for some reason they’re under the impression that means they are incapable of being recognized on more than one character.
Actually I'm just not about to debate with a person who is spewing hate and toxicity....blah blah blah ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem, strawman, strawman, strawman.
While the total and complete lack of self-awareness is a little surprising, you do not disappoint in delivering exactly what is expected.
No, you are not, and I have thoroughly explained, why/how, you are not doing so in my previous posts, as have others. Also, every single one of your own posts is evidence of how/why you are doing no such thing. You are doing exactly what I have already explained in my first post.
And the amount of projection in this latest reply though....just wow. Along with all the misdirection......your years of practice is really showing. Congratulations on such a skillful display.
I want to be able to try all classes on a single account.
Being limited would be a hindrance.
You can have all classes on one account. What you can’t and shouldn’t be able to do is have every class, every profession, and every religion maxed on one character, which is what OP is asking for because they’re a streamer and for some reason they’re under the impression that means they are incapable of being recognized on more than one character.
That's great, I don't if there are slot limits for the characters (64 total classes combinations).
I was simply stating the bare minimum required IMHO.
I believe having "one job" per character is better from the point of view of its identity.
I understand what you're saying, but no. Nor do I want some universal identifier like a "family" name, such as in BDO.
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Well what you want and what you're gonna get are two totally separate things. One of the Mods, very early in this thread to be exact, already stated a family name was about as close as you are going to get.
Another option would be to use the same name but have a single extra letter on the end. Ex TeamvashB, TeamvashS, etc. That way it's like 90% the same.
While I support the merits of name recognition and the desire to master all aspects of a game on a single character, there are some things lost in this mentality. (Also, there's a suffocating level of ego throughout your argument that makes it a little unbearable but I digress.) Diablo 3 has more or less already accomplished what you are describing by simply referring to everyone by their account name vs. their character. Done. Not much fanfare to be had but there are some costs associated with your idea (also yes FFXIV does this.)
1) There is a difference between getting an achievement as one class verses getting the same achievement as another.
2) There is a difference between getting an achievement at one gear level for one class verses representing have the achievement at a different gear level as a different class.
This first two points are similar but slightly different. The easiest example I have is the mage tower challenges from WoW-Legion. Some of those challenges were drastically harder for some specs than others. Representing an achievement with a certain time stamp for a certain role can carry for more respect. (i.e. Did you accomplish it the first week or 2 patches later when it was trivialized by gear or nerfed in difficulty.)
3) You argue the true hardcore want this. I argue the true hardcore are indifferent. They are used to having plenty of alts for all the same reasons.
4)There is more to identity than a name. Class and spec carry just has much weight. While many top tier players are quite good at many classes, most are known for being the God of one. Your design of class fluidity erodes that piece of identity.
5) If your reputation is as strong as you imply it is, your adoring fans will surely learn your alts names ;P Just think how special they'll feel recognizing you on all of them. You can have pop quizzes like "What's my warriors name?" and give out gold stars.
6) With 64 Class/Sub-Class Combos, setting up achievements per class would be a bit tedious
7) I got a bit lost on how you tried to connect class knowledge with singular name. It sounds more like you want your name to get you the invite than your merit. I don't think highly skilled players have ever had to worry about getting invited to content. I would caution that egocentric players may not get invited, regardless of performance, particularly in a community driven game like how AoC is being positioned.
8) The vast majority of your examples are equally solved by logging onto an alt. "Had a bad time in a dungeon, log into an alt and grind your face off." I'm not seeing where there is a limit placed upon the player-base of hardcore players.
You say your name has value. If that's the case, here is my take on your OP. You are a schizophrenic, and that's not valuable. It tells me that you would be a lot of trouble deal with and to steer clear. You do you, but if that's what you want in a game, then maybe this game isn't for you.
The better solution to this would be that an account can have multiple characters with same name. That a name is not unique to a character but an account. That way you want to play another class? Login from your alt which has the same NAME!!!
Names would be "Account bound". I have my 'Sylvanar' rogue lets say and I make a mage in the same account then I should be able to name that mage as 'Sylvanar' too. As the name would be account bound to my account, you wont be able to use this name. Ofc I would have to do everything in the mage character starting from level 1.
@TeamVASH what you are suggesting is simply not going to happen.
This is the best solution to your query. It is pretty easy to implement too but I doubt if even this would be done. OR introduction of family name which again is doubtful. What is even the point of this thread anymore?
"Suffer in silence"
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RyuMember, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I love this and have a hard time seeing why it's not how things are done. Can we get the argumentation in?
How can you be against this really?
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bloodprophetMember, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
Read the thread.
It is a horrible idea for an MMO. Good for a single player game.
I didn't want this to go back to being an active thread.
Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
I disagree. One thing I disliked about modern WoW was how easy it was to switch specs. I like having a single unique character that fits into the community and has a unique identity. I miss the old WoW community. You have your right to your desire though. I get that you want people to notice that you're a content creator and you want to advertise yourself across all characters.
I don't want it to be like the garrisons in WoW where you can just do everything yourself and you just stick to yourself.
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CypherMember, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
I think it should be similar to how BDO does it. Everything is tied to the family name. One slot taken up in the guild list for all your characters. One house shared by all your characters. You still need to make alts to play different classes and do different life skills, and that’s okay as long as all your characters share certain things like I mentioned.
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Ofc I dont support changing the primary class of the character. Thats just not going to happen in any worthwhile game period.
Ah, that sounds alright, but I'm personally not a fan. "Meta-bullying" is just metagaming to harass a player. So, if they implement "family" names like they have in BDO, which is an account name, people can consistently find you, no matter what character you're on.
Ha, he can try, doubt it'll happen. The planned class system is something I genuinely really like.
I'll throw in a nod to that.
I certainly hope they keep the system as-is, as it seems interesting and unique.. am certainly no fan of the final fantasy version of every character is every class.
Actually I'm just not about to debate with a person who is spewing hate and toxicity because he thinks that its entertainment. I'm here to have a constructive conversation and try to promote an idea that I'm passionate about. The fact that the only rebuke is to name call and insult me as a person means that you aren't a part of this conversation. I'm not here to respond to mean nasty trolls because they don't argue with logic. They are just here to be pointlessly evil.
Alright now onto the interesting part of your comment. My requests are not contradictory in the slightest. The fact that you want to dictate to me the rules of role playing and presume to tell me what is or isn't role playing is the just absolutely the most delightfully desperate argument of all time. Hey guys did you hear, as a role player you are not allowed to role play arrogance, pride, success, elitism over filthy peasants or anything else that makes roleplaying the most fun thing of all time. You are not allowed to role playing an immortal shape shifter who walks through races and worlds seeking out conquest and challenges to add to his legacy of terror spread across centuries and worlds. Did you hear guys, Zeric says NO!! And if you disagree with him he will slander you, call you names, try to make up any nonsense he can think of to try to tear you down because his tiny mind has absolutely no chance at winning an argument using facts or ideas so instead he will venture into the abstract where he thinks he is safe and that his meager intellect can dare stand against the indomitable might of High Warlord Vashen. Foolish mortal. I will crush you like the scum you are and smear yiou beneath my boot heel just like the legions of peasants who has dared to stand before my invincible might. lol....puny insect dares to match his tiny little brain against the wits of a god. I look forward to laying waste to your puny joke of a guild should you dare step foot in my world *laughs to himself with mocking pride as he pantomimes dropping the mic*
You need to go read the post again. All of your fears are non issues. My system would have zero effect on people who want to play alts. Everything you are scared of I already talked about in the main post. Also, players will 100% be asked to pick certain classes for certain types of content and they will be told how to skill/slot/spend and what mindless rotations to use with the current system that exists right now. The big no from you needs to be completely reworked because everything you are arguing is basically you proving my points and not realizing it. Also....drastically change the way the game and mmo works? Really? REALLY?? Come on man, are you just trolling LOL
I don't want a family name. I want one name that I can role play across every class in every game forever and be known around the world
Do what you want within the game’s constraints.
Note to self - will ask friends with KS packages who get to reserve their names first to reserve the name Vash. Since some of them are no longer planning on playing, I don't think this will be too much of a problem.
And I think that the time I spend crafting my reputation and building relationships and making friends shouldn't be hindered by the fact that I want to play every class, every race and every profession in the game which I am going to do whether my idea gets implemented or not. The only problem here is that you want to rob me of my name which honestly the most nonsense argument ever. There is nothing you can say that will justify not allowing me to keep my name which by the way I am paying top dollar to reserve. Its just a name. It means nothing to you and everything to me. Its not hurting anyone so there is literally nothing you can say to argue it away from me unless you are just trying to troll.
Now as to the content creator arguments you are inadvertently proving my point. These guys were known for only one thing because their name was tied to only one thing. Any time they tried to play an alt it felt pointless because they lost the insane amount of fame and renown that was tied to that name and even though I guarantee you they played and wanted to play other characters they had no choice but to keep coming back to the name they were known for because the name is more important then anything. Their careers are tied to their names. The fact is that those players were brilliant players at many classes and every one of them should have been given the chance to keep their name. Even if they vastly preferred another character they are screwed and have no choice but to stick with the name they are famous for. If I want to be a no life loser and play all day every day because I love this game so much why should anyone argue to steal my name. It makes no sense. If I became famous enough that you knew my name does it really matter what class I am. If you know my name as a threat or is a treasured ally can you really argue that I shouldn't be allowed to have that recognizable name. If Asmongold was travelling on his maxed out rogue and he wanted to have his name proudly displayed would you really want to not know its him as he slaughters you? Because I'd want to know it was him. And I'd want my victims to know it was me if I was him. At the very least it should be a choice that he's allowed to make for himself. You have to be lying to yourself to say otherwise. His name is his career, livelihood. And just to put one final nail into this stupid coffin of ridiculous arguments the character class is clearly shown on your enemy. If Asmond gold was famous for his warrior and you fought his rogue you'd know what to expect from him as a rogue just as much as if he had some name that you didn't recognize. In fact, you'd respect him more and possibly make a wise choice because the name recognition and reputation alone is enough to give pause.....WHICH IS THE ENTIRE POINT. That is the very argument for trying famous names to classes. You see a name and you are like...woah be careful of that dude. He's a notoriously nasty skilled player and maybe we don't want to die today. Names are what matters, not the class they are tied to. A name is literally everything. If you hear my name and you hear Pewdiepie who are you going to respect more. Obviously Pewds because he's a boss. Don't hide your most famous players behind stupid alt names UNLESS THEY WANT TO HIDE
That would be amazing and I would have no problem with that. At the end of the day my name is the only thing I really care about. I live for connection and at the end of the day without that connection to people I wouldn't care about games at all
Because there are no duplicate names. That's the whole point. If you have the name Sylvanar then I have to find a different name that hasn't been taken
HAR!!! Foolish child. For one claiming to be far more entertaining then I you curl up like a defeated pathetic childling and hum idle meaningless threats when you are completely obliterated in a contest of wits. The name I pick in these lands does not matter. It only matters that whatever name I choose I get to keep and wield it always like a sword no matter what face I travel these lands with. So that every time you are lying dead at my feet you will always know the name of your better. The trolls were much more competent in the Emerald Dream *scoffs triumphantly and walk away with a smug grin*
You need to either stop editing quotes, or learn what you are doing.
Being limited would be a hindrance.
You can have all classes on one account. What you can’t and shouldn’t be able to do is have every class, every profession, and every religion maxed on one character, which is what OP is asking for because they’re a streamer and for some reason they’re under the impression that means they are incapable of being recognized on more than one character.
But, you can...?
No, you are not, and I have thoroughly explained, why/how, you are not doing so in my previous posts, as have others. Also, every single one of your own posts is evidence of how/why you are doing no such thing. You are doing exactly what I have already explained in my first post.
And the amount of projection in this latest reply though....just wow. Along with all the misdirection......your years of practice is really showing. Congratulations on such a skillful display.
Also, no, monologuing is not is not roleplaying.
That's great, I don't if there are slot limits for the characters (64 total classes combinations).
I was simply stating the bare minimum required IMHO.
I believe having "one job" per character is better from the point of view of its identity.
Well what you want and what you're gonna get are two totally separate things. One of the Mods, very early in this thread to be exact, already stated a family name was about as close as you are going to get.
Another option would be to use the same name but have a single extra letter on the end. Ex TeamvashB, TeamvashS, etc. That way it's like 90% the same.
1) There is a difference between getting an achievement as one class verses getting the same achievement as another.
2) There is a difference between getting an achievement at one gear level for one class verses representing have the achievement at a different gear level as a different class.
This first two points are similar but slightly different. The easiest example I have is the mage tower challenges from WoW-Legion. Some of those challenges were drastically harder for some specs than others. Representing an achievement with a certain time stamp for a certain role can carry for more respect. (i.e. Did you accomplish it the first week or 2 patches later when it was trivialized by gear or nerfed in difficulty.)
3) You argue the true hardcore want this. I argue the true hardcore are indifferent. They are used to having plenty of alts for all the same reasons.
4)There is more to identity than a name. Class and spec carry just has much weight. While many top tier players are quite good at many classes, most are known for being the God of one. Your design of class fluidity erodes that piece of identity.
5) If your reputation is as strong as you imply it is, your adoring fans will surely learn your alts names ;P Just think how special they'll feel recognizing you on all of them. You can have pop quizzes like "What's my warriors name?" and give out gold stars.
6) With 64 Class/Sub-Class Combos, setting up achievements per class would be a bit tedious
7) I got a bit lost on how you tried to connect class knowledge with singular name. It sounds more like you want your name to get you the invite than your merit. I don't think highly skilled players have ever had to worry about getting invited to content. I would caution that egocentric players may not get invited, regardless of performance, particularly in a community driven game like how AoC is being positioned.
8) The vast majority of your examples are equally solved by logging onto an alt. "Had a bad time in a dungeon, log into an alt and grind your face off." I'm not seeing where there is a limit placed upon the player-base of hardcore players.
@TeamVASH what you are suggesting is simply not going to happen.
This is the best solution to your query. It is pretty easy to implement too but I doubt if even this would be done. OR introduction of family name which again is doubtful. What is even the point of this thread anymore?
How can you be against this really?
It is a horrible idea for an MMO. Good for a single player game.
I didn't want this to go back to being an active thread.
Indeed.
Essentially, the OP wanted Intrepid to put his ego before good game design.
Not surprisingly, he was called out on it.
I don't want it to be like the garrisons in WoW where you can just do everything yourself and you just stick to yourself.