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We need PVE servers here's why

No we dont need PVE servers, get baited.

This is a pvx game, pvp and pve are the core of this game, every system is designed with pvp/pve in mind.
You cant avoid pvp in this game.

Most people think they will be killed all the time by players. That wont happen there are system to prevent constant PK unlike vanilla wow.

Will you get killed in the Open World sometimes? Yes
Will you get ganked in open world dungeons and raids sometimes? Yes
Will you have the freedom to do whatever you want in game? BIG YES

There are risks and rewards in this game. If Frodo went to Mordor in a PVE server would that be fun?NO

This is not about being casual or hardcore, its about freedom. You can PVE only in this game, but expect to be forced into pvp sometimes. But dont come here and ask for PVE servers or a way to avoid pvp when pvp is a core system.

Alpha 2 is meant to test stuff, the PK system will be tested and balanced, so dont ask for reworks or to remove it without it being tested. This is a pvx game stop trying to make it a pve only game please.

Its like going to McDonalds and ask for Pizza because you dont like hamburgers, makes no sense.
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  • NiKrNiKr Member
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  • CROW3CROW3 Member
    You had me at "No" :D
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  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack
    I was coming in hot
  • ShileeShilee Member
    I opened this page like "here we go again" ready to argue with someone on the forums a6dheijfc9t2.png
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  • NorkoreNorkore Member
    edited June 16
    Holy shit I almost got giga baited.
  • CawwCaww Member
    I see what you did there.... very unfair
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  • Norkore wrote: »
    Holy shit I almost got giga baited.

    Almost?! Boy, you're here like the rest of us. Don't be embarrassed.
  • ArlysalArlysal Member, Pioneer, Kickstarter
    Norkore wrote: »
    Holy shit I almost got giga baited.

    You're not alone lmao. I was getting ready to type some angry words when I saw the title!
  • OtrOtr Member
    You are good. :)
  • Redcap_GoblinRedcap_Goblin Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
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  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Keyozen wrote: »
    No we dont need PVE servers, get baited.

    This is a pvx game, pvp and pve are the core of this game, every system is designed with pvp/pve in mind.
    You cant avoid pvp in this game.

    Most people think they will be killed all the time by players. That wont happen there are system to prevent constant PK unlike vanilla wow.

    Will you get killed in the Open World sometimes? Yes
    Will you get ganked in open world dungeons and raids sometimes? Yes
    Will you have the freedom to do whatever you want in game? BIG YES

    There are risks and rewards in this game. If Frodo went to Mordor in a PVE server would that be fun?NO

    This is not about being casual or hardcore, its about freedom. You can PVE only in this game, but expect to be forced into pvp sometimes. But dont come here and ask for PVE servers or a way to avoid pvp when pvp is a core system.

    Alpha 2 is meant to test stuff, the PK system will be tested and balanced, so dont ask for reworks or to remove it without it being tested. This is a pvx game stop trying to make it a pve only game please.

    Its like going to McDonalds and ask for Pizza because you dont like hamburgers, makes no sense.
    Um. No. It would be like going to McDonalds and ordering chicken because you don't like hamburgers.
    Better analogy might be going to Pizza Hut and ordering a pizza with no cheese because you don't like cheese.
  • OtrOtr Member
    Dygz wrote: »
    Keyozen wrote: »
    No we dont need PVE servers, get baited.

    This is a pvx game, pvp and pve are the core of this game, every system is designed with pvp/pve in mind.
    You cant avoid pvp in this game.

    Most people think they will be killed all the time by players. That wont happen there are system to prevent constant PK unlike vanilla wow.

    Will you get killed in the Open World sometimes? Yes
    Will you get ganked in open world dungeons and raids sometimes? Yes
    Will you have the freedom to do whatever you want in game? BIG YES

    There are risks and rewards in this game. If Frodo went to Mordor in a PVE server would that be fun?NO

    This is not about being casual or hardcore, its about freedom. You can PVE only in this game, but expect to be forced into pvp sometimes. But dont come here and ask for PVE servers or a way to avoid pvp when pvp is a core system.

    Alpha 2 is meant to test stuff, the PK system will be tested and balanced, so dont ask for reworks or to remove it without it being tested. This is a pvx game stop trying to make it a pve only game please.

    Its like going to McDonalds and ask for Pizza because you dont like hamburgers, makes no sense.
    Um. No. It would be like going to McDonalds and ordering chicken because you don't like hamburgers.
    Better analogy might be going to Pizza Hut and ordering a pizza with no cheese because you don't like cheese.
    Do pizzas without cheese exist?
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    edited June 16
    Yes. They exist.
    Pizza without sauce is more popular.
  • FerrymanFerryman Member
    This kind of unnecessary bragging is actually equally lame as for asking PvE servers.
    Do you need a ride to the Underworld?
  • George_BlackGeorge_Black Member, Intrepid Pack
    edited June 16
    Dygz wrote: »
    Keyozen wrote: »
    No we dont need PVE servers, get baited.

    This is a pvx game, pvp and pve are the core of this game, every system is designed with pvp/pve in mind.
    You cant avoid pvp in this game.

    Most people think they will be killed all the time by players. That wont happen there are system to prevent constant PK unlike vanilla wow.

    Will you get killed in the Open World sometimes? Yes
    Will you get ganked in open world dungeons and raids sometimes? Yes
    Will you have the freedom to do whatever you want in game? BIG YES

    There are risks and rewards in this game. If Frodo went to Mordor in a PVE server would that be fun?NO

    This is not about being casual or hardcore, its about freedom. You can PVE only in this game, but expect to be forced into pvp sometimes. But dont come here and ask for PVE servers or a way to avoid pvp when pvp is a core system.

    Alpha 2 is meant to test stuff, the PK system will be tested and balanced, so dont ask for reworks or to remove it without it being tested. This is a pvx game stop trying to make it a pve only game please.

    Its like going to McDonalds and ask for Pizza because you dont like hamburgers, makes no sense.
    Um. No. It would be like going to McDonalds and ordering chicken because you don't like hamburgers.
    Better analogy might be going to Pizza Hut and ordering a pizza with no cheese because you don't like cheese.

    I dont like your analogies. You use them to fashion a case for your dislike of real mmo pvp.
    An open world pvp mmo isnt a pizza place where you can pick and choose your toppings freely.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    LMAO
    None of these analogies have anything to do with whether or not I like PvP.
  • CROW3CROW3 Member
    Agreed - aaaand I still want pizza.
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  • DolyemDolyem Member
    Had me like
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  • daveywaveydaveywavey Member
    edited June 17
    Otr wrote: »
    Do pizzas without cheese exist?

    I once had to make one without cheese or toppings, cos the kid eating it didn't like anything on his pizza except tomato sauce. He thought it was the best thing ever.
  • bloodprophetbloodprophet Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    Ketchup on bread sounds horrifying :s
    Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
  • OtrOtr Member
    daveywavey wrote: »
    Otr wrote: »
    Do pizzas without cheese exist?

    I once had to make one without cheese or toppings, cos the kid eating it didn't like anything on his pizza except tomato sauce. He thought it was the best thing ever.
    What he became? PvP or PvE player? :smiley:

    All this pizza talk makes me hungry.
  • Am I there only one that doesn't think it matters if they do have PvE servers?

    Honestly how would that effect the people on the PvP servers at all?
  • LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    Am I there only one that doesn't think it matters if they do have PvE servers?

    Honestly how would that effect the people on the PvP servers at all?

    You would not be there for me to PK :/
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  • Liniker wrote: »
    Am I there only one that doesn't think it matters if they do have PvE servers?

    Honestly how would that effect the people on the PvP servers at all?

    You would not be there for me to PK :/

    I'm sorry you have to go find someone who actually PvPs instead?
    Isn't that why everyone wants a PVP game? To actually have a challenge? If you just want to stomp bots just do PvE... 😆
  • mcstackersonmcstackerson Member, Phoenix Initiative, Royalty, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    edited June 17
    Am I there only one that doesn't think it matters if they do have PvE servers?

    Honestly how would that effect the people on the PvP servers at all?

    Only reason i argue against it is most people's experience with open pvp comes from games like wow where it servered no purpose and was more of a little things the devs allowed then part of the game. They will choose a server based off that experience in another game instead of understanding it's role in the game or how the system will change their overall experience.

    The flagging system is an intended part of the game and i'd rather people experience before we make make servers that shift away from the games original design.
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  • LinikerLiniker Member, Alpha One, Adventurer
    I'm sorry you have to go find someone who actually PvPs instead?
    Isn't that why everyone wants a PVP game? To actually have a challenge? If you just want to stomp bots just do PvE... 😆

    Nah, I just like to PK people that come to a game and ask the devs to change their whole game design just to cater to their personal preferences :D

    Theres no PvP or PvE servers, Ashes is a PvX game and that's how all the systems are planned around, if you remove PvP the game is completely broken - Unless you want them to take 2 extra years and delay the launch, to redo the whole game so they can have PvE servers with completely different systems and rules, which is also a ridiculous request.

    Theres plenty of PvE games out there
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  • NiKrNiKr Member
    Am I there only one that doesn't think it matters if they do have PvE servers?

    Honestly how would that effect the people on the PvP servers at all?
    The main problem I see is that most people will just go to pve servers just because they're used to doing so. And with most people playing on pve servers you'll barely have anyone on pvp ones. Even if we forget about how most mechanics in the game wouldn't work properly on a pve server, the game needs population to be the best itself it can be. And with pve servers you're dooming all the pvp ones to just die out.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    If it didn't detract from development time, I would love to see one "PvE Server" just to see what it looks like.
    Even just to prove to people that it won't work.
  • DygzDygz Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One
    edited June 17
    NiKr wrote: »
    The main problem I see is that most people will just go to pve servers just because they're used to doing so. And with most people playing on pve servers you'll barely have anyone on pvp ones. Even if we forget about how most mechanics in the game wouldn't work properly on a pve server, the game needs population to be the best itself it can be. And with pve servers you're dooming all the pvp ones to just die out.
    If Corruption works as intended, there should still be plenty of folk on PvX servers.

    (And, I guess, if we were going to have one "PvE Server" we should also have one No Corruption Server)
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