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Alpha Two Realms are now unlocked for Phase II testing!
For our initial launch, testing will begin on Friday, December 20, 2024, at 10 AM Pacific and continue uninterrupted until Monday, January 6, 2025, at 10 AM Pacific. After January 6th, we’ll transition to a schedule of five-day-per-week access for the remainder of Phase II.
You can download the game launcher here and we encourage you to join us on our for the most up to date testing news.
Alpha Two Realms are now unlocked for Phase II testing!
For our initial launch, testing will begin on Friday, December 20, 2024, at 10 AM Pacific and continue uninterrupted until Monday, January 6, 2025, at 10 AM Pacific. After January 6th, we’ll transition to a schedule of five-day-per-week access for the remainder of Phase II.
You can download the game launcher here and we encourage you to join us on our for the most up to date testing news.
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I read what you said the first time and you are speaking from a lack of experience in what a rper wants, that example is not good and naïve at its best. There is going to be plenty of armor to obtain in game, as a rper you need to SHOW rp skill and dressing up is not a rp skill. Unless you have done serious rp you are not going to understand this and that is why you are using a bad example. There will be plenty of people that will dress up as a knight in their style of outfit.
You also fail to grasp that you need a costume to be a knight, you simply obtain the gear in the game and roleplay your role, that is what they are looking for. Rp is very subjective there will always be one person that can rp better as they play their character that is not decided by a outfit. That isn't even rp logic you are effectively saying a person dressed in armour or whatever gear they like and choose is not a knight, that is NOT how rp works.
You don't know how to engage because your mind set is trying to win this argument because you have thought of something and you will refuse to back down from the scenario you made in your head. There is a reason why you could only create one and again its not how rp works on winning or losing. Rpers are always happy to have more people and grow their community, not whatever you are thinking that they are exclusive based on a damn outfit.
@Asgerr
Then if I'm also roleplaying and the visuals of a costume bought in a cosmetic store don't bother me, explain to me why I'm not as valuable in my acceptance of the cosemtics?
It seems that you, too, tend to take the simpler interpretation of what is being said.
Your assumptions about what I am saying are wrong, but I honestly don't know how to influence them. I can only advise Iridianny to ignore your perspective because your accusation of selfishness appears to be baseless or rooted too deeply in your own perceptions to be a situation where you understand what is being said even from the perspective of the other person but still disagree with it.
Yes yes, fine, your usual style of argument.
"I don't know what I'm talking about because my experience doesn't match yours."
Carry on.
* Points to the entire thread *
How does a costume affect your RP skills?
How does a purchased cosmetic aid you in plotting, scheming, making friends and alliances, have duels, feuds and arguments? What edge is given to you? Why is someone suddenly winning for wearing a cosmetic?
Or is RP for you just about playing dress up and seeing who looks nicer?
Ever heard of immersion?
Funny you should say that
Dressing up in AoC is not p2w, rping isn't a win and lose condition its a cooptative experience between people when you are solely talking about rp and not battles. I don't know why you are choose to defend the worst take, if you tried to go with p4c that would be at least reasonable.
So no edge provided. Got it. Only a matter of immersion. Thus not P2W.
Shame that has not been your argument until just now. If you wanna talk cop-outs that's a bigger one.
Oh you mean that you made this thread just to kill time, knowing that nothing would change about the cosmetic store? And that you already knew that you were twisting definitions? So this was all some colossal waste of time? I mean, after all, you're saying you did not want the game to do what you think is best.
If you prefer to call it that, sure. I don't really agree with Iridianny's definitions anyway.
If you want to argue over 'common definitions of P2W among MMO players of the last 10 years', you and I are on the same side. If we were going to discuss 'what RP is about and what RPers do', then I would be opposed.
But in the case of both you and Asgerr, I'm not actually trying to 'make a point' or 'win an argument', I was just doing my usual 'check of if you were coming from a place of attempting to understand' or not, to determine if to continue.
Sometimes people respond positively when one shows that one isn't just trying to be argumentative. Sometimes they don't.
Oh look, she’s back… yay… no one called you this time though, weird. Good job offering another shit posting meme and nothing beneficial to the conversation as usual. Air head, huh?
Haha you can’t find anything to back your accusation so you are just making more XD
Then we can let this thread die, unless the same people decide to make a 5th thread that the shop is p2w.
“Let the thread die” as he makes another post on the thread. *claps* it was a good attempt, but try again buddy.
Almost like this is.... a Public Forum where everyone is free to say what they want?
Are we now trying to curb free speech too? Damn. That point I made about Tyranny of the minority is growing even more accurate.
I'm sure you feel content with yourself over some false perception of victory. After all "winning" has a lot of different definitions right?
If you didn't seek a change towards what your POV is, you wouldn't have made a thread about this. This is clearly not a PSA. And even if it was, it's some old timey bs one, where they got all the basic facts wrong and made the wrong assumptions, then try to proselytise about it.
But hey, it seems everyone now knows to disregard anything you say.
With that said, this will be my last reply to your shit show of a thread and replies. May we never hear from you again.
“Curb free speech” XD that’s a LONG shot buddy, just said it was “weird” she actually came without being called on like a dog. Nice job not backing your accusations and continuing to just pile more and more on every time it’s called out. That’s really all you added to this conversation so it won’t be a loss when you are gone. ✌️
I don't believe anyone has been forcing you to view or contribute to this particular discussion. You are indeed free to go if you wish.
I will also point out that your tone and potty mouth are a little unbecoming. That may be something worth working on.
How can anyone believe this is a real post? a person couldn't be this fucking stupid.... he is just trolling everyone come one guys
And as for Asgerr's attempts at explaining why the thread is "selfish", @Iridianny the perceived selfishness comes from the assumption that the creation of this thread was meant to change Intrepid's monetization scheme. And the selfish part being "you want to get rid of the cosmetic store because you consider it p2w, but w/o said store Intrepid would have to either increase the sub price or introduce some other monetary feature. And for the majority of people anything outside of cosmetic stores is usually seen as either p2w or at the very least aggressive and/or exploitative p4c. But considering that you don't care about either of those things, you still made the thread with the (assumed) purpose of changing the currently accepted non-p2w model. And it is seen as selfish on your part".
Or at least that's how I understood Asgerrs attempts at pointing this out. If that is not the case, Asgerr, or if the intention of the thread was not in fact to change the currently planned monetization scheme, Iridianny - then I guess we have in fact spent our time uselessly arguing pointless semantics.
Asger’s accusations were far more than what you explained and I didn’t ask for an explanation from you I asked for a specific example where I made a claim he accused me of making, which he couldn’t provide.
Oh, and considering Azherae pretty much did your job for you, I thought you'd be fine with me doing Asgerr's job for him
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