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Our quickest Alpha Two updates are in Discord. Testers with Alpha Two access can chat in Alpha Two channels by connecting your Discord and Intrepid accounts here.
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Cosmetics are not going to help me become a Monarch.
Cosmetics are not going to help me win a Mayorship. Even in a Scientific Node, I don't think cosmetics will be the deciding factor in citizen voting.
Cosmetics are not going to help me Craft better.
Cosmetic will not help me advance faster in Social Orgs or Religions
So...where will cosmetics help advance faster???
I mean if we are going to discuss how its rp breaking, i think the character creator itself is rather immersion breaking itself. Irl I didnt "create my features" or "chose my race"
This form of the word "win" has been out of use (or generally out of use) for half a decade.
The sample sentence given is "striving to win a living from the sterile soil", whereas for the last 50 years or so, that sentence would be written as "striving to earn a living from the sterile soil".
At best, you are attempting to apply an outdated definition to a word that everyone else has an understanding of its current meaning.
Even if we accept that this specific definition is current, when writing a sentence you only use one meaning of a word, not all meanings. As such, if we assume Intrepid mean the second definition of the word "win" in your link (which is the current common use or the word), then I am sure you have to agree that a cash shop is not pay to win.
No. Successfully crafting items is going to result in stats that help you win fights.
Cosmetics won't help you win fights.
And it is also not a win factor by the gameplays design
Again, this is very... unreasonable. To reject someone opinion, and then state, to see things my way you must agree with my perspective...
I would say you cant effect "personal achievment" with anything that could be considered p2w, as you cant purchase a "personal achievement."
Uhm yea, duh. Competition isn’t all there is to a role playing game bud. Ask Steven if his entire goal for this game was just it be a “big competition” and I’d imagine it wasn’t. It’s in a lot of ways an adventure game.
I didn’t say he had to agree with me, I said to understand he would have to accept there are multiple progression paths besides what he views as advancing, which having multiple progression paths is not my view, but a goal from the creator of the game.
Heh. Yeah... @dygz is all about kicking the crap out of others as quickly as possible.
Cosmetics do not help anyone advance in any of them.
I'm not sure what visual progression means when we can purchase cosmetics.
What you seem to mean is that you feel that purchasing cosmetics does not allow people to feel a sense of accomplishment (and superiority) through visual progression, where the only way for people to look better or more heroic or super-cool is via earning their appearance.
You want visual progression to be competitive. And purchasing cosmetics doesn't allow us to have competitive visual progression.
I guess that can be a thing, but...
Seems like it's not a view that is at all popular.
My personal win objective is simply owning a character in the game, therefore it is P2W because I had to pay money to achieve this. This is what you sound like to me.
I knew he would see things my way one day!!!
So simpy XD
Personal progression with appearance is not competitive and does not allow us to win anything.
You have personal objectives you wish to achieve. Great. A cosmetics shop does not prevent you from achieving personal visual progression goals - especially since everything in the cosmetics shop has a corresponding item that can be earned in game.
Yep, I agree that's a perspective.
win verb
\ ˈwin \
won\ ˈwən \; winning
Definition of win (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb
1a: to get possession of by effort or fortune
b: to obtain by work : EARN
Winning is not always competitive with other people, sometimes its a personal competition or achievement.
"especially since everything in the cosmetics shop has a corresponding item that can be earned in game" - I mean this helps if it follows this path, but they aren't exactly the same item if they have a different appearance.
Dygz is the "father" of the forums. The longer im here the more i see it
With this definition... you can win a cosmetic... but a cosmetic does not make you win......
"Now, thanks to this pants skin, i have won".... no. No you havnt. Having that skin has not obtained anything further for you. It has not "gained possession of" something more for you. Winning may gain you a cosmetic. Having a cosmetic is not wining.
That's just because his profile pic is an old dude and he has a bunch of titles that shows he's spent a lot of money on this game already. Of course he's invested in his literal investment.
Just because he's another rper doesn't mean we should have the same perspective on this... do you think that about all groups of people. It's very stereotype-y.
Winning something is literally "winning"...