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Alpha Two Realms are now unlocked for Phase II testing!
For our initial launch, testing will begin on Friday, December 20, 2024, at 10 AM Pacific and continue uninterrupted until Monday, January 6, 2025, at 10 AM Pacific. After January 6th, we’ll transition to a schedule of five-day-per-week access for the remainder of Phase II.
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Well we both have our assumptions we will see what is right. I expect things to change again when it comes to special cases of gear.
This is open development and as they have said some things change, nor do we know what special stats will be on unique legendary gear. Assuming all rules apply to them seems a bit naïve unless said otherwise.
I'm not really going to get into the maintain thing since that opens up a lot of other topics I could get into we both can be assuming with as well.
If they don't lose the item and its only a month or two cooldown then after a couple years you will have lots of that item around.
You get one then move to an alt. Or have a legendary alt, and once your get the item swap back to your main to wait out the timer. Then do another legendary run.
You'll have the advantage in experience since you are one of the few that succeeded in getting the item the first time.
I would say that the timer must be very long, to be fair to people taking breaks, and the item should be lost.
1 year, maybe 2 and the item is deleted.
Kind of hard to guess that without knowing the full progression and their plans mainly around how they approach enhancement and the gear increases from doing it. If they want infinite progression than I'd say it is very rng dependent on getting "max gear" and could take year and/or years as the mark moves up.
This answer doesn't really change much as the expectation to get these "unique legendary gear" you should be using great based on the challenges. I most likely would approach it within tiers than full bis to begin with.
So tiers 1-3 (though personally I'd prefer 1-5 cause more content) with 3 being full bis. These types of challenges you want to be over geared as well. Being open world challenges it should have strong anti zerg mechanics as well so no one can cheese and try to kill it early or easily.
And the chances that someone outside your guild has the perfect build for that item and has enough money to pay your guild for it are abysmal.
You say that short-lived Uniques would push people to use them, but imo that creates a high stress "feel bad" situation. At first you might be happy that you got the item, but then you realize that if you use it w/o a proper build you'll probably be weaker than you currently are. And if you don't use it - the item is completely useless, so your achievement is meaningless. So why would people continue going after these Uniques if they can never properly utilize them.
The only way to truly experience the Unique's power would be to just have a shitton of money on you at all times, so that you can by the item itself and any other gear that would fit its build (though even this requires you to have the best possible archetype for it). But at that point, who's doing the achievement of having a Unique? Is it the rich boi who's never even touched the boss or is it the guild that spent months preparing and defending their farm all just to sell the literally best loot from it?
I understand what you are saying about builds and such and why i also suggested it have some universal modifiers that will still boost whomever is using it. Honestly with special items like these there are cool things you can do. (not that this will ever be in the design) but you can give them cool types of abilities to use with long cooldowns or maybe only useable in wars. Taking a page literally out of throne and liberty for example where you turn into a giant siege creature. So instead of your normal battering ram you can change change it if you have a certain special legendary to some sort of other creature.
That is just one example but you can use these types of special legendary items in unique ways that still give them a lot of value even if it doesn't exactly match your build with it also giving universal buffs as well. (though my above point i feel stands with the guild / group being picky on who they will allow to get it.)
@NiKr
Never assume it makes an ass out of you and me. All my feedback was based on what Steven has said and the game design.
And as for guilds, as I said here before, I shared those very uniques in L2 with others, so yeah I know that guilds will give the item to the most appropriate member (well, unless they're nepotists of course). But literally the same thing would happen with the long-lived Unique, which is why I don't really consider this a strong argument either
Again things change in development, things are not always set in stone, that is mentioned in the live streams.
If im not mistaken you were the one making the argument about it not fitting some ones build? My comment is simply against the fact it will be thought on a per person basis over group / guild with people involved in running the content?
I can open up a lot more questions to this as well when we are talking about builds and such. At the moment i feel there is a lot of different ways to go about builds on paper atleast with all the class and customization. So how many unique will there be if they don't have any kind of universal purpose and it is truly fit per type of build.
If by chance they are very build focus and end up being useless on a lot of people if there are only a few unique are most people out of luck by default on even caring? Or if they plan to make a lot what is the time that is being allowed to make that many over other content in the game?
Those would just be some serious questions on how they might tackle them if they aren't universal-ish.
Say Guild A drops a weapon for a specific tank build. Other pieces of that build drop in a particular location. Now guild B, that's been trying to fight guild A for a long time, knows that they could contest that location to try and prevent guild A from making a stronger build.
Hell, I'd love if Uniques enabled some mat drops in certain locations, that then led to new dials during crafting. This would bring a whole new lvl to guild competitiveness and location control. But that's obviously a whole different discussion.
But the point is, this would only work if the item stays for a long while. Or, as you say, if it fit anyone. And if it fits anyone, then there's no real reason to keep it exclusive, cause everyone will already have a build that "fits" it.
I get that can be cool for people, but it is kind of lame that only certain classes / builds get to use unique gear effectively. It becomes a faction out of already a tiny faction of gameplay elements. And this goes to me thinking is that worth it development wise over future content. So it ends up with 3 in the game as kind of meme legacy items.
Im not sure about triggering mat drops, a lot of this stuff makes sense if you are talking about what i suggest in cycling it so it is a strong item but you have it for a few weeks before its gone.
Allowing a guild (a few people that control it) to have this kind of stuff for insane periods of time does not really sound like it should be impacting gameplay like that. Sounds like a bad idea where they just are forever ahead of everything. It doesn't leave it open for new competitive guilds to have such a item.
Only way i see this long term id be more ok-ish with is once the node is destroyed the legendary item is lost. So it kind of becomes part of the node / guild that controls it. So the item can last as long term as the node can survive.
They could not allow you to do so, again i wouldn't assume everything applies to these since they are unique. You can talk about overall development but changes or special rules can pop up for certain instances. Take the open sea pvp as an example.
My worry is there won't be any value in them as well though by the time you can do the content to clear them and making sure they are balanced. But we need to see more before i can be more critical about it.
Maybe though i just don't like the idea of only one legendary and rather all legendary gear be very rare as it is with different tiers.
And unique be artifacts with special traits that can influence the world for set amount of time players can control. And further creating player driven content.
My mind set is pretty ambitious though, with expectations i don't expect to be ever met.
Do you have a link for this for aoc?
In BDO all items are enhanced including orange.
Yeah you could enhance all items but stats wise an orange maxed out was better than a red maxed out when I played. I had both and never used my red after this discovery. Furthermore, the road was very rocky at the time. I haven't played bdo for several years now though.
Maybe I'm blind but i don't see anywhere there where they say you can't enchant a legendary?
I'd need to see them before i can judge, or how the gear works in general when they start showing more of that design. Hard for me to have exact thoughts on it. I just expect legendary gear to have special traits. And simply had an idea with the unique legendary gear with my example of it having stronger effects for potential player driven content.
We will see what happens but i wouldn't be so sure until the gear is shown nothing is set in stone until release, and it isn't unreasonable to think items like these will have different rule sets.
There will also be methods of moving stat blocks around but this won't necessarily be an easy task.[60][56]
Now, we know that Intrepid's plans on having crafted items to be the best gear, so i'm leaning towards those 1 per server items to be a craftable material that is used for a legendary finished product. In this instance, logically, as soon as its picked up and used in a recipe, the material no longer exists in that server and now is turned into the finished product. There by means of absolutely no re-drop.
This isn't a win situation either the legendary gear will be strong and create imbalance and people salty when things are nerfed, or gear is a meme and either way all the hours that goes into it could have been better used on making more actual content.
My 2 cents, but pretty much done with this at this point. Everyone just has the mind set they are going to be the one to get it imo.
Yours truly isn't a fan of the notion of possessing an item on a timer; If the player is playing, then they should keep it and 1/server item shouldn't drop again.
Isn't there another, separate gold medal to win, in the next Olympics - and isn't there still a history/record of who had won it, previosuly?
Whole-heartedly agree with you, on this one. Would hate to loot a 1/server item from a World Boss, only to look at the stats and see that - no matter how active I am - it's going away in 3 weeks.
It's still a mark of accomplishment - whether you've obtained it via running the actual content, or being hawk-eyed on the markets.
I'm fine with it, if such items are cosmetic-only. It's still something to show off, and it's easier to be fond of a special item, over an item you know that pretty much any player can obtain.
@Neurath Am also of the mind-set that Unique Legendaries should be re-craftable. I would love a system wherein we can obtain a UL skin, and then apply it to a crafted item, just once - especially if there will be lower-level UL's.
I imagine unique legendaries to be like gold medals. If unique legendaries aren't added through updates, I think more will come from expansions. At least there will be multiple sources for unique legendaries than just a sole source.