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John Belushi. He was all of 5' 8" and pushing 250 lbs. Not quite a dwarf but a pretty good flipper.
An opt out would be awesome.
I see you're right. Funny thing about lore and legends. you can live forty years believing something. Until the stunt double who did the work comes out and confirms the truth.
Anyhow I really like the idea of the optional user set config as to how your dwarf jumps and flips. Personally I would take the flip for sure, I like it.
Why ?
Because i think it will prevent Monkey/Bunning-Jumping then.
Muahahahahahah.
✓ Occasional Roleplayer
✓ Guild is " Balderag's Garde " for now. (German)
If the Dunir mountain dwarves were the perfect candidate to animate a front flip jump...
What other jump animations will the other races get?
Nikua? Double flip perhaps....
Tulnar...Surely the ape beast Tulnar will triple flip... run on hands cartwheels too?
What about the Elves? scissor kick twist jump with single hand plant....?
So Intrepid you've set a precedent that stocky staunch humble mountain folk who are probably as sure footed and reserved in their everyday lives as their environment shaped them, is currently the most acrobatic race to the point every jump they do irrespective of the armor they wear now must be a front flip...
Then we now must ask, is attacking and defending while jumping now possible for Dunir? Seeing as they've committed to flipping every jump how do they shield block or swing a battle axe (weapon) mid flip? can they even use other abilities while flipping?
In other words are they now vulnerable or do they magically immune mid flip...
If the other races are not as if not more so flamboyant than Dunir then what really was the deign brief in the office?
The reality is having the Dunir dwarves flip every jump is the dumbest design commitment I have seen In this entire games development....
If it was gnomes or pixies I'd be like "that makes plausible fantasy sense" in a believable way...
But instead you picked mountain dwarfs for acrobatics....Which blows any sense of coherent logic to the point it makes a fantasy unbelievable.
Nice!
I am with the op on this one, but it has nothing to do with the behaviour of dwarves in other fantasy settings, but to do with the verisimilitude of Ashes itself- its own, internal logic being coherent and cogent. A species that is "stoic and stout" is not a species that is agile or acrobatic. The two are mutually exclusive. Any comparisons to other fictional worlds are merely for convenience or reference sake- it still doesn't make sense within the internal rules of Verra/Ashes to have Dwarves in full plate doing front flips.
Edit: I'd actually be totally fine with dwarves doing front flips if they're:
So I guess for me it's less of a racial thing and more of a "bro you're wearing your weight in steel" thing, I can see Dwarven rogue classes etc doing flips
I was gonna comment something here about how jump flair could be class-based rather than race-based, but I couldn't come up with enough variations lol
I realize it’s high fantasy but I don’t enjoy cartoony animations when the aesthetic style is aimed at being realistic
If the Dunir (Stereotypical mountain fantasy dwarfs) Are not hole digging mountain climbers...Which they by all accounts should be.
And are more like free running parkour advocates, Not even the best Parkour athletes front flip up objects...They occasionally flip down to add flourish, but mostly they roll and tumble when landing after a larger jump...
So the argument that a flip adds height is bogus unless you intend to land on your head. At multiple times during the Bard livesteam when Brain F the Dunir jump up an object only to hitch the flip animation which look weird, as if to say gravity and friction stops and the flip must complete irrespective of terrain height.
Flipping up objects no matter how you try and justify it is just stupid.
At this point it is still an in house joke...
I hope it gets put on the shelf like APOC and the battle pass...
I'd rather have normal jumping dwarfs and crossbows or even the potion launchers than the persistent front flips...
The Vek are star gazers. The Dunir a crotch lookers both themselves and others at this point.
"Stoic: a person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining."
I dunno why those two concepts would be inherently mutually exclusive.
Doing flips is showing feeling. Probably happiness, or ants in the pants, but it shows some kind of emotion.
I like the dunir flip
Running could also indicate ants in the pants.
Ants in the pants does not necessarily have anything to do with emotion. Just as running is not inherently about emotion.
Flipping Dwarves (Dunir) is Basically Intrepid's Jar Jar Binks Star Wars moment.
Feel free to flip jump back up onto the porch if you believe its possible without assistance ....
And don't even think about using young Yoda flip fighting as a plausible reason flip jumping makes perfect sense as that uses a MacGuffin "the force" ergo "because magic". Old Yoda would never approve anyway...
which further emphasizes why Dwarfs are the least appropriate race for acrobatics or spell assisted mobility excuses.
Look I understand why some people might like flip jumping. But pick any race other than a preconceived dwarf.
Hence why I originally in the way back machine advocated for the Nikua to get all the acrobatics...As it made the most plausible case for it to "make sense"
Dunir dwarfs are plain and simple and unpretentious ...like porridge/oatmeal, bread cheese and a tankard of ale.
Not fruit loops or snap crackle pop cereal
This is your subjective opinion. I have mine. Flipping has no meaning what so ever unless you are doing gymnastics. Standing around in a group just flipping is an act of emotion. Boredom, excitement, being annoying, or what ever. No one just flips while standing in a group that is not doing anything. Don't even say role play, Dwarves do not flip.
The Reason BrianF's Dunir beard was missing is because he had to shave it as it was getting in the way from his jump flips...
But, I could still do floor tricks in my Hip Hop class at age 55.
Again - stoicism is irrelevant.
Yoda is not a Dünir. Apparently, true Dünir revere flipping.
We'll have to see if the same applies to Niküa.
So far, it appears to be a cultural aesthetic on a world with High Magic.
So, yeah... they are assisted by magic.
Empasizes nothing except your bias.
If Dunir can flip, it makes sense for Dünir to flip.
Cultural behaviors are not always 100% logical.
Apparently, Dünir, plain and simple, revere flipping. And are not as white bread and porridge/oatmeal as you assumed. They seemingly like a bit of spice, too. We shall see.
I dunno where you got unpretentious from.
That is your cultural bias.
Apparently, Dünir do not agree with you.
you sure like making stuff up lol. Standard Dwarven race protocol is not cultural bias, its preserving culture. You are the one pushing to change it. The Dünir speak for themselves on this. And they have stated they are not in favor of it.
Yes, you are, but most of the Dwarven guilds do not.