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  • VeeshanVeeshan Member, Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    This is supposedly a female.
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    Where are her hips?

    to be fair the body scuplting not in a2 atm with character creation :P so who knows she might get bigger hips/butt potentially :pensive:
    That being said im a somewhat skinny guy and my ass is bigger than hers :P
  • LeiloniLeiloni Member, Alpha Two
    GreatPhilisopher wrote: »
    the direction they are goin for is typical western ugly the rainbows been making everything western go to lately , how in the world is the elfs the canonically most beautiful race in the world looks the ugliest . like at one point they actually made the pyrai look really cool and beautiful like how an elf is supposed to be s49790n3rmd1.png
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    . a few months later they showed the models and this is the travesty they turned it into uvyofc97johq.png
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    there is literally 0 reason to do that other than ..well we all know the reason dont we

    1000% agree. They need to redo these to look like they did before. I've also bitched about this before as well - https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/53001/pyrai-models-are-just-vek-models-reskinned-give-us-our-own-unique-pyrai-models-please#latest
  • bloodprophetbloodprophet Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    @bloodprophet

    I would like to believe both critique and feedback are valid on the general discussion forms.

    I don't think Ashes is going to be made worse by some valid criticism.

    The good news is Steven has demonstrated remarkable resilience when it comes to his vision for Ashes.

    All of the feedback in the world has not changed the name for tank.

    If the ugly face are intended they will stay, if they are open to change they may change.

    At this point I am too invested to not put both my feedback and opinion out there.

    Agreed I just think it is a placeholder and we will great things in the coming months.
    Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    I found this video has some very good points - and made by a woman. So it's not just "toxic sexist men" who want the female chars to look pretty. It's the women, too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVIBdu3Fv-Y
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    bloodprophet wrote: »
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    @bloodprophet

    I would like to believe both critique and feedback are valid on the general discussion forms.

    I don't think Ashes is going to be made worse by some valid criticism.

    The good news is Steven has demonstrated remarkable resilience when it comes to his vision for Ashes.

    All of the feedback in the world has not changed the name for tank.

    If the ugly face are intended they will stay, if they are open to change they may change.

    At this point I am too invested to not put both my feedback and opinion out there.

    Agreed I just think it is a placeholder and we will great things in the coming months.

    I'd love to see sources for this. Nothing they did or said in their livestreams gave me that impression. What they DID though (copypaste of the vek model, for example), makes me fear the worst.
  • bloodprophetbloodprophet Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    edited 4:10AM
    Andi wrote: »
    bloodprophet wrote: »
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    @bloodprophet

    I would like to believe both critique and feedback are valid on the general discussion forms.

    I don't think Ashes is going to be made worse by some valid criticism.

    The good news is Steven has demonstrated remarkable resilience when it comes to his vision for Ashes.

    All of the feedback in the world has not changed the name for tank.

    If the ugly face are intended they will stay, if they are open to change they may change.

    At this point I am too invested to not put both my feedback and opinion out there.

    Agreed I just think it is a placeholder and we will great things in the coming months.

    I'd love to see sources for this. Nothing they did or said in their livestreams gave me that impression. What they DID though (copypaste of the vek model, for example), makes me fear the worst.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_PasE-_W6M

    This gives me hope. I think it is not in a place they are comfortable with outsiders touching things. Maybe they want to add the other species first. /shrug
    Most people never listen. They are just waiting on you to quit making noise so they can.
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    bloodprophet wrote: »

    Agreed I just think it is a placeholder and we will great things in the coming months.

    See this is where people get lost in the weeds. The character creator is not placeholder in any aspect. its an early iteration. For example we were shown how mining is supposed to work months ago.
    https://youtu.be/WyXMxhUK_p8?t=753
    timestamped. Yet this is not how mining works right now at all. So mining in its current form is a placeholder.

    As for the character creator we have all the features shown before, but the polish, presets, and possibilities fall short of what we were shown. Almost to a misleading degree. its in a poor state currently and everyone here trying to voice that should do so.

    Intrepid need this sort of feedback. You cannot go around telling people constantly that the games not completed, just an alpha, etc. The alpha 2 phase 1 is more than just stress testing.

    This is a screenshot from the roadmap detailing what we are supposed to be testing in alpha 2. Notice how its not trying to dictate which part of alpha 2 to start giving feedback on each feature?

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    So please, stop trying to step in front of feedback people are trying to get to the devs.
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    Commissioned at https://fiverr.com/ravenjuu
  • CarlisleCarlisle Member, Alpha Two
    edited 4:32AM
    I have always played with a male character, but I know how much my girlfriend enjoys customizing her characters with cosmetics in various games. Collecting and experimenting with different looks is what she enjoys most in any MMO she has played so far. I will show you an example of a beautiful female cosmetic or character facial features r5ktzycox1po.jpg
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    edited 5:02AM
    Carlisle wrote: »
    I have always played with a male character, but I know how much my girlfriend enjoys customizing her characters with cosmetics in various games. Collecting and experimenting with different looks is what she enjoys most in any MMO she has played so far. I will show you an example of a beautiful female cosmetic or character facial features r5ktzycox1po.jpg

    That looks awesome. It also looks like a woman, not like a dude with long hair.

    @bloodprophet I do hope they will rework the character models. If I'd been 100% convinced they won't, I'd not have opened this thread. I just refuse to give up and resign myself to playing as whatever it is they put in the game right now that stands in for the characters.
  • CaerylCaeryl Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Leiloni wrote: »
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Vhaeyne wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    Fashion is endgame, and it's the probably biggest source of income by far after release (Heck, put a cosmetics shop in before release, just save the unlocked ones to my account).

    The problem is that right now, it doesn't even matter what cosmetics they put in, because the character models are so fugly, nothing you could put on them would make them more tolerable.

    This is so important to really focus in on now more than ever.

    Think about the failure of Concord, Starfield and Veilguard.

    Then think about the success of Baldur's Gate Three, Eldin Ring and FFXVI.

    The art direction on the current faces is that of a fail game. I want better for Ashes.

    Right now the only cosmetic I am interested in is a paper bag for a helm. I don't know how much money they can make selling cosmetics that make you not want to see the character, but I imagine making good looking characters will be more profitable.

    Shitty writing and lackluster gameplay killed those games

    Ashes should work exactly like BG3 does for cosmetics, ie armor should be the same on both sexes. Skimpy for both or realistic for both. None of this 'women get the skimpy version' shit

    That's exactly what we're asking for.
    • Make attractive char models to begin with, so you'd want to put cosmetics on them.
    • Make outfits in various forms for various tastes: heavily armoured or seductive, any kind.
    • Make outfits equally attractive for both sexes.
    • The more character customization you allow, the more char expression is possible.
    • This will attract female players (definitely not how that works for getting women to play a videogame, it just has to be good and the community not rancid) and roleplayers alike, and you want those, too.
    • Make cosmetics a steady stream of income. FFXIV has a shop and a sub, and so does WOW.

    Some people in here are definitely asking for women to get the skimpy version, given the near nudity on that cartoon looking elf that got posted. Solid 'no thanks' to that asian mmo nonsense.

    At least what you posted in this particular comment I'm generally in agreement with, though the models are already workable into a good looking character *IF the character creator actually saved sculpts instead of always reverting to whatever preset was selected. I gave it three tries and it always reverted to the same gaunt looking elf face when the character spawned. It'll save tattoo data though for whatever reason (which are also not all properly leveled on their default angle).

    It's a barebones system not fully functional and gear has such little variety that it automatically makes every character look more dull because you've seen ten thousand people in riverstalker armor already in the exact same colors. Just adding more hairstyles and face presets and ffs some damn gear dyes. Anything for more visual variety in the interim.

    And fixing the hair rendering too, that looks like ass. Probably boned on that front due to Unreal though, unfortunately.

    I happen to love Asian MMO's and a lot of them have great looking character models as well as armor. But since I've had this argument before I'm just going to redirect you to this post with some nice examples from Aion. They had gorgeous armor that covered enough while still being fashionable.

    https://forums.ashesofcreation.com/discussion/comment/336597#Comment_336597

    Yeah most of those have zero place in a game as armor. Civilian clothes sure, but not armor.
  • SathragoSathrago Member, Alpha Two
    Caeryl wrote: »

    Yeah most of those have zero place in a game as armor. Civilian clothes sure, but not armor.

    going by your logic saying this, robes have no place in the game at all. but wait, those are light armor and good against magic. How could flimsy robes protect against magic!?!?! They couldn't be.... Magical??!
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    Commissioned at https://fiverr.com/ravenjuu
  • Uncommon SenseUncommon Sense Member, Braver of Worlds, Kickstarter, Alpha One, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Elves don't have hips...

    female dwarves though...
  • CaerylCaeryl Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Uncommon Sense wrote: »
    Elves don't have hips...

    female dwarves though...

    Good for them curves

    Once sculpting actually works people should complain less about character not being enough eyecandy for them. At that point if the characters look bad, it's a skill issue
  • AndiAndi Member, Alpha Two
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Uncommon Sense wrote: »
    Elves don't have hips...

    female dwarves though...

    Good for them curves

    Once sculpting actually works people should complain less about character not being enough eyecandy for them. At that point if the characters look bad, it's a skill issue

    You're just assuming that this is what we'll get, but there's no actual evidence for it.
    Since this Alpha is what we got, the feedback they'll get from me is for what we have.
    Not what I dream of at night.
  • CaerylCaeryl Member, Alpha Two, Early Alpha Two
    Andi wrote: »
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Uncommon Sense wrote: »
    Elves don't have hips...

    female dwarves though...

    Good for them curves

    Once sculpting actually works people should complain less about character not being enough eyecandy for them. At that point if the characters look bad, it's a skill issue

    You're just assuming that this is what we'll get, but there's no actual evidence for it.
    Since this Alpha is what we got, the feedback they'll get from me is for what we have.
    Not what I dream of at night.

    Even with this half-finished placeholder you can use the sculpt function to make characters look good. It just doesn't save.

    You can watch the stream of the Character Creator tool if you want a better understanding of what to expect
  • GreatPhilisopherGreatPhilisopher Member, Alpha Two
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Andi wrote: »
    Caeryl wrote: »
    Uncommon Sense wrote: »
    Elves don't have hips...

    female dwarves though...

    Good for them curves

    Once sculpting actually works people should complain less about character not being enough eyecandy for them. At that point if the characters look bad, it's a skill issue

    You're just assuming that this is what we'll get, but there's no actual evidence for it.
    Since this Alpha is what we got, the feedback they'll get from me is for what we have.
    Not what I dream of at night.

    Even with this half-finished placeholder you can use the sculpt function to make characters look good. It just doesn't save.

    You can watch the stream of the Character Creator tool if you want a better understanding of what to expect

    i love how just ignored the fact that the example you used for the sculpt is again something i made and as i stated after using the sculpt for hours on every race is the literal only somewhat decent face i was able to make in the whole CC and for the (most beautiful race) after so many tries and it still looks like masculine with a male jawline.
    Carlisle wrote: »
    I have always played with a male character, but I know how much my girlfriend enjoys customizing her characters with cosmetics in various games. Collecting and experimenting with different looks is what she enjoys most in any MMO she has played so far. I will show you an example of a beautiful female cosmetic or character facial features r5ktzycox1po.jpg

    this looks great

    ykwk7qwgw5os.jpg
  • TroowTroow Member, Pioneer, Founder, Kickstarter
    To me it seems like they, so far, have made most armor in "one size". I am sure they will change that, at least to cosmetic items they want to sell.
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